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@Tecness2: If SE has this rule, show me the proof.

Why don't you point me to any kind of rulebook in any sport or game that says you can't cheat as a rule. I thought so.

Lequan first of all, I am Usman
2ns, do u find any rule of page in SE? no right, then dont ask for proof, we are talking about datol boosted waseems acc not that waseem hacked datols acc, everybody is saying that DATOL helped him

EDIT: its really hard to open 2 SE's at a time and play with the accs

Oh well so that's nothing to do with Waseem cheater then.
And this is a game, and a friend wanna do something to make his friend happy. Is that RESTRICTED?
And if there is no rule, so noone can ban Datol or Waseem.
Done deal.

Not done deal, dont run when so many ppl are agreeing , A friend can do many things to make other frnd happy except an illegal thing, ok KFCJ?

I am going to break this down into small chunks to prevent it from inducing my gag reflex.

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So, for those ppl who don't know me, I'm KFCJ. If u know me, that's good. If not, that's ok. It doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter.

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I quit SE for 3 days and suddenly my friend on fb buzz me :"Guess what? Ur leader is top 1 now." So I found out ALL OF U think Waseem is cheater and report mods and stuff blah blah blah...

It is cheating and they have every right to. Blah blah blah.

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So let me point out something from ToW (our clan)
"BAD NEWS
I HAVE TO LEAVE STICK EMPIRE FOR 4 MONTHS
MY FATHER IS ANGRY ON PLAYING THIS GAME…
SE SPOILING MY LIFE HE SAID SO HE DISCONNECTED INTERNET CONNECTION
SO LEAVING MY ToW ON U GUYZ
MY DREAM WAS TO BE 1ST IN TOP100
ToW WILL BE NUMBER 1 CLAN OF SE"
This is the exact copy what Waseem said before he left. U can find it on ToW's wall post.

Yes, that's what he said. The next day I played a ranked game with him (and won). This doesn't prove anything, other than Waseem being extremely hypocritical.

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Datol and Waseem are close friend. If u pay attention in their matches, u can notice they call each other "baby" for fun. So u can see how close their friendship is.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt you're unaware of the connotations behind someone calling another an infant as you're not American (thought I doubt there's really a cultural barrier here), but that term is not typically thrown around for endearment. This implies one to grow up, mature, because they are young and inexperienced. Calling another player this, is rude and disrespectful. However, for the time being, I'll get past this, as it doesn't pertain to the meat of the subject.

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So basically Datol just wanna do something for his friend. Is that called CHEATING???

Yes. One of my friends doesn't like you, so I hack your account and send your rating below 1200. You can thank me later.

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If u think Datol is Waseem, u're wrong. Datol is much better than Waseem and has different strategy.

Then why the hell didn't he use it, smart ass. If his strategy is surrendering over a dozen times in a row, he has a mental illness.

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If u think Waseem hacked Datol account, then Datol is the one who has the right to report Waseem, NOT U GUYS.

Wrong. How about I hack your account when you're on vacation. Again, thank me later. Later as in 4 months.

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For those of u who said "Waseem is a guy who recruit and brag about his clan." Sry mates, I work with Waseem and his leadership is better than those of u who only know how to say bad thing about someone. GO MAKE A CLAN and see how hard to organize it.

That's exactly what he did. But congratulations, you have a clan. I'll admit it's difficult, I'm running the last clan standing from December. But I don't cheat, lie, pay for members to have the chaos empires, and account share. You do. Go get ranked #1 honestly and see how hard it is to play fairly. Or is that why you quit?

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Is there any rule that not allow a person give out his rating to his friend?

Yes, actually. You're not supposed to account share, which is what you just tried to pull it off as. Nice job. How about morality? I remember when freezing the game wasn't in the rules. I forgot there was a time when that was okay too. My, I'm slow.

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Rating is just imaginary number. Wake up, guys. There is no God in SE that is undefeatable. WyzDM, CC2, Killer21, everyone has mistake sometimes and lose.

An imaginary number that goes next to every player in the leaderboards who honestly (and now dishonestly) proved themselves in battle. You have even beaten me before, I'll admit that here. What you can't admit is how irrational you're sounding.

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I still quit SE, but I will wander around SE to answer this thread if anyone has question.

Doesn't sound like quitting to me, but that's a shame. You were a decent player. Perhaps you should take a "vacation."

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I'm ready to answer reasonable questions or offensive reply, but they have to be reasonable. Not something like "U suck, Waseem is cheater. U're Waseem's brother". Noobie reply like that, I won't answer.
Peace~

Here's a question:

What on God's green earth makes this acceptable. And that isn't a question. I don't know why you're trying to defend either of those 2 players. If there is not one ounce of you that understands any of this is wrong; if you can't imagine for a moment how it would feel if you were in ANY other player's position: not just mine, just a player who works honestly for that they do to witness someone simply forfeit to gain their victories? I have lost all respect for you. And THAT is the question.

Waseem1104 and Datol are cheaters. Just because you said I can't say it.

Now it's officially time to kick some ToL ass.

@Mecha-HeWitt: What kind of "cheat" u're talking? Every game has specific background and system and there are tons of things called "cheat." Be more specific like writing on the forum or homepage of SE.
I can call someone a cheater because he wastes my time for playing a long battle and Sync Out
I can call someone a cheater because he uses mass raged swordmen and finish my statue less than 4 minutes
Like wow ? Every move can be "cheating"? If not, then WRITE it HOW IS A CHEAT?

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@Mecha-HeWitt: What kind of "cheat" u're talking? Every game has specific background and system and there are tons of things called "cheat." Be more specific like writing on the forum or homepage of SE.
I can call someone a cheater because he wastes my time for playing a long battle and Sync Out
I can call someone a cheater because he uses mass raged swordmen and finish my statue less than 4 minutes
Like wow ? Every move can be "cheating"? If not, then WRITE it HOW IS A CHEAT?

He made it very clear IMO. Look it up at google.

I lost it at Wyzdms post, lmao

P.S. Why didn't you answer some of these posts? You avoiding them? Inb4 miss them.
P.S.S Waseem gave ToW a good gift; all out war.

Really well said Really nice!!

@WyzDM: I don't have time to break small things to answer every single line like u
So I just point out 2 important things that I see :)
"An imaginary number that goes next to every player in the leaderboards who honestly (and now dishonestly) proved themselves in battle. You have even beaten me before, I'll admit that here. What you can't admit is how irrational you're sounding."
"Now it's officially time to kick some ToL ass."
So there are few times (I don't remember on the thread, website, or video clip) that u said rating is not important. It's more important how u play well and have good strategy/skills. Now, u're not top 1 and u start to care more about rating??? If u still think rating is not important, then whatever Waseem nor Datol do (boosting, cheating, whatever) about rating, u should not concern. If u start to care about ur reputation/fame/Godlike, rating makes u FAMOUS, then I have nothing to say about addicted gamers :)

Too much defending that is

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@WyzDM: I don't have time to break small things to answer every single line like u
So I just point out 2 important things that I see :)
"An imaginary number that goes next to every player in the leaderboards who honestly (and now dishonestly) proved themselves in battle. You have even beaten me before, I'll admit that here. What you can't admit is how irrational you're sounding."
"Now it's officially time to kick some ToL ass."
So there are few times (I don't remember on the thread, website, or video clip) that u said rating is not important. It's more important how u play well and have good strategy/skills. Now, u're not top 1 and u start to care more about rating??? If u still think rating is not important, then whatever Waseem nor Datol do (boosting, cheating, whatever) about rating, u should not concern. If u start to care about ur reputation/fame/Godlike, rating makes u FAMOUS, then I have nothing to say about addicted gamers :)

You sound very irrational. I wanna ask something tho.

What is rating to you. And why did Waseem boost, if rating doesn't matter?

And did you know? Waseem left his GF to play SE. Omg so not addicted.

@_Ai_ : Rating is a number to help me face the pro easier to improve my skills :) I'm saying Datol help Waseem getting top 1, not Waseem himself
There was a time when Waseem gave all his rating to Datol. If Waseem is also Datol, then he just needs to use DatoDestroy (2k3 rating) to boost faster. Not wasting time to pull Waseem1104 (2k1) slowly

Aren't you proud of your rating? Rating isn't precious to you? Then give it to me. You're quitting right? Gimme your rating nao.

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So, for those ppl who don't know me, I'm KFCJ. If u know me, that's good. If not, that's ok. It doesn't matter.
I quit SE for 3 days and suddenly my friend on fb buzz me :"Guess what? Ur leader is top 1 now." So I found out ALL OF U think Waseem is cheater and report mods and stuff blah blah blah...

jezz, only 3 day and he go to the top, god like

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I still quit SE, but I will wander around SE to answer this thread if anyone has question.
I'm ready to answer reasonable questions or offensive reply, but they have to be reasonable. Not something like "U suck, Waseem is cheater. U're Waseem's brother". Noobie reply like that, I won't answer.
Peace~

ok, i reply here

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So let me point out something from ToW (our clan)
"BAD NEWS 
I HAVE TO LEAVE STICK EMPIRE FOR 4 MONTHS 
MY FATHER IS ANGRY ON PLAYING THIS GAME…
SE SPOILING MY LIFE HE SAID SO HE DISCONNECTED INTERNET CONNECTION
SO LEAVING MY ToW ON U GUYZ
MY DREAM WAS TO BE 1ST IN TOP100
ToW WILL BE NUMBER 1 CLAN OF SE"

that information i don't thing it need to be tell what is your social life was

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This is the exact copy what Waseem said before he left. U can find it on ToW's wall post.
Datol and Waseem are close friend. If u pay attention in their matches, u can notice they call each other "baby" for fun. So u can see how close their friendship is.
So basically Datol just wanna do something for his friend. Is that called CHEATING???
If u think Datol is Waseem, u're wrong. Datol is much better than Waseem and has different strategy.
If u think Waseem hacked Datol account, then Datol is the one who has the right to report Waseem, NOT U GUYS.
For those of u who said "Waseem is a guy who recruit and brag about his clan." Sry mates, I work with Waseem and his leadership is better than those of u who only know how to say bad thing about someone. GO MAKE A CLAN and see how hard to organize it.

so what i see here that they are friend, they play together for fun and how munch match they play? and you don't say that each of guy read this have to make a clan to feel how hard it is but how they can make it if there no one join if every body have they clan

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Is there any rule that not allow a person give out his rating to his friend?
Rating is just imaginary number. Wake up, guys. There is no God in SE that is undefeatable. WyzDM, CC2, Killer21, everyone has mistake sometimes and lose

it a imaginary number and yet that number get some guy to the top of the game

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@WyzDM: I don't have time to break small things to answer every single line like u
So I just point out 2 important things that I see :)

Fair enough. I only like to keep things fairly organized.

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An imaginary number that goes next to every player in the leaderboards who honestly (and now dishonestly) proved themselves in battle. You have even beaten me before, I'll admit that here. What you can't admit is how irrational you're sounding."

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"Now it's officially time to kick some ToL ass."

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So there are few times (I don't remember on the thread, website, or video clip) that u said rating is not important. It's more important how u play well and have good strategy/skills. Now, u're not top 1 and u start to care more about rating??? If u still think rating is not important, then whatever Waseem nor Datol do (boosting, cheating, whatever) about rating, u should not concern. If u start to care about ur reputation/fame/Godlike, rating makes u FAMOUS, then I have nothing to say about addicted gamers :)

Let's break this down.

What I said was rating was just a number. What it simply means is this: It does not define a person's potential. I didn't create my account with over two thousand elo; I worked for it. I didn't let 1200 define me, I chose 2500. I didn't let myself feel weak or surpassed by playing a favored opponent, which many were feeling in the topic I shared this. I did not say that it's imaginary and doesn't define a player's skill. Truth is, it does. But only at a relative time. I am now about 2450. Does this mean I am 2450 and now 2500? Of course not. Why is that? Because I ranked myself past 2500 five different times. And I did it honestly. Yes, it's a number. But you can accept when it becomes your standing. Did Waseem earn his stripes? or Datol? No. Did the other players in the boards? Yes. Why? Theyyy'reeee great!

Also, you managed to perhaps pick the weakest sounding case to your defense, in a post taking about a quarter of a page long. Do I need to add a TL;DR? As I didn't in my previous post, and I'm not going back to edit, I'll do so here in reference to it.

TL;DR At least read the bottom of the freakin' post. Can't answer that can you?



Thank the Lord I'm not a grammar nazi either but I may be converted with the direction of this thread.