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His giants DESTROYED my albows. If I spearton rushed him, his ninjas will kill me.

Mages? shadowrath shinobi

merics? that's bad, still shadowrath

albows? giants destroy them

swordwrath? ninjas and giants destroy

archers? get destroyed also

speartons? shadowrath kill them

more shadowrath? giants and he harras my economy

giants? his giants attack me and shadwrath attack with shinobi

he also had 300 more rating than me,
so how do you defeat giants and shadowrath?

pressure him at the start. If you let him build that army, your missing somewhere

Error replay :/

And the best solution is ECON HARASSMENT! (Again lol, ikr?)
Cuz ninjas are expensive stuffs and also giants

The other solution is Giant+albowtross combo
First kill all his ninjas with your ranged units
then finish off the giants with your remaining albowtross

Remember, econ harassment is the key to win!

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Error replay :/

And the best solution is ECON HARASSMENT! (Again lol, ikr?)
Cuz ninjas are expensive stuffs and also giants

The other solution is Giant+albowtross combo
First kill all his ninjas with your ranged units
then finish off the giants with your remaining albowtross

Remember, econ harassment is the key to win!

It was kind of hard to pressure him because of 3 castle archers, 2 miner walls, and the map is grasshills
I didn't know he was massing giants and shadowrath because he garrisoned them, and I didn't want to waste lots of my units to spy on it.
btw I has about 10 albows behind 1 giant, and I still lost.

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It was kind of hard to pressure him because of 3 castle archers, 2 miner walls, and the map is grasshills
I didn't know he was massing giants and shadowrath because he garrisoned them, and I didn't want to waste lots of my units to spy on it.
btw I has about 10 albows behind 1 giant, and I still lost.

You should have more economy and miners, cuz he has 3 castle archers, 2 miner walls, and you don't have ANY

If he was hiding his units, then you should have had your units attack his miners.

spearton mass rush to the statue ftw XD

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You should have more economy and miners, cuz he has 3 castle archers, 2 miner walls, and you don't have ANY

I did, but he killed them all...

Archidons just out of castle archer range disable the second row of gold essentially. Albowtrosses can be used instead to make rushing them harder.

Passive income can make a small difference in the economy race. If you have the tower, a ghost giant can get castle archer attention while rage swords or speartons rush to the statue to kill some miners while scouting out. A ghost spearton backed by archers or albowtrosses can also do similar.

U do know ninjas and giants are the the 2 units are built longest right? also, if he turtle, get the center, build spears and harass him, piece of cake :|

I thought albowtrosses took longer than ninjas.....

And early on, it'll be pretty easy to handle if he only has one or two ninjas or a giant. You can mass swords with rage early on, since shinobi is ineffective and inefficient against low health units and giants can only attack one unit at a time.

Okay, I hate to be a wet blanket, but doesn't this belong in order strat?

Aside from that, four magikills behind two walls, with a bunch of speartons around them could work. Research/ Activate spearton shield ability, put them into shield mode in front of the walls, and use electric walls to pwn the shadows. Now, rush the giants with spears.

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Okay, I hate to be a wet blanket, but doesn't this belong in order strat?

Aside from that, four magikills behind two walls, with a bunch of speartons around them could work. Research/ Activate spearton shield ability, put them into shield mode in front of the walls, and use electric walls to pwn the shadows. Now, rush the giants with spears.

The smart player would have giants go in first to attack the speartons and whittle them down, while 2 shadowrath go in at a time to insta kill a spearton with shinobi.

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The smart player would have giants go in first to attack the speartons and whittle them down, while 2 shadowrath go in at a time to insta kill a spearton with shinobi.

It takes 4 shadowrath to insta kill a spear, and 4 magikill blasts and shadowraths are all DEAD

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It takes 4 shadowrath to insta kill a spear, and 4 magikill blasts and shadowraths are all DEAD

If you wasted twenty population points on Magikill, you're pretty done for anyways. Plus they can all just cloak and murder them. If the enemy is any good with Shadowrath, you'll be hard pressed to defeat them using a strategy like that. Even if you did somehow blast them all, they would just send 4 more in. 4 Magikill are worth more than 4 Shadowrath, both cost and population-wise.