Shadowrath

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Aug 16, 2013 4:16 PM #1067114
Are shadowrath useful for anything but assassinating magikill (or other units)?
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Aug 16, 2013 5:02 PM #1067140
I suppose with their speed they make good scouts.
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Aug 16, 2013 7:25 PM #1067206
Miner harrassment, wall breaking, rushing (like spearton rush), allbow/shadow combo, taking down retreating units, shadow/meric combo, and chaos counter... These are the common uses. You need a shadow master to tell you every single use of the shadowrath.
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Aug 16, 2013 7:33 PM #1067208
A shadowrath rush is easily countered with full castle archers complemented with rage swords and albows. It's almost as bad as a spearton rush.

The shadalbow combo (can I call it that) has been discussed and 2 or 3 fully grown giants with the rest of the population filled with albows will take the combo down if everything is aimed at the albows. As a counter to Chaos, I don't see much effectiveness since the shadow can't shinobi medusas or marrowkai, and not deads either. The only Chaos units they can insta kill are miners, bombers (why would you do this though) and crawlers.
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Aug 16, 2013 8:00 PM #1067222
Eclipsors aren't as effective as allbows at killing shadows; and even the marrowkai isn't as good as the magikill when with a shadow mass. I didn't think of this one; see the chaos strategy page and find who posted it first...

Shadowrath rush is actually better than spearton rush in some ways. You can harrass better before the rush, if they already know what you're planning. If they don't, shadows are still faster than most units.

The giant mass is highly effective against shadow-allbow; but how many pros giant mass more than 2 giants and then get allbows? Usually, they get mages instead. By the time they realize, it is usually too late to get another giant and an allbow army.

Of course, their best use is still to kill magic users.
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Aug 16, 2013 8:35 PM #1067236
actually shadowrath itself with out shinobi are useful against chaos.
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Aug 16, 2013 10:39 PM #1067299
Quote from fhtrg
actually shadowrath itself with out shinobi are useful against chaos.


Bombers, 3 bombers will take out half of a shadowrath's health (they take out 2 bars of health on a swordwrath, which are also unarmoured) so 6 bombers will take out a small group of shadowrath. 6 bombers is also like 450 gold (if my Chaos knowledge is up to date), while 2 shadowrath are over 900 gold plus mana.

Chaos counter to shadowrath is surprisingly bomber mass I guess? Never thought anyone would praise bomber mass being successful.
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Aug 17, 2013 12:12 AM #1067328
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Bombers, 3 bombers will take out half of a shadowrath's health (they take out 2 bars of health on a swordwrath, which are also unarmoured) so 6 bombers will take out a small group of shadowrath. 6 bombers is also like 450 gold (if my Chaos knowledge is up to date), while 2 shadowrath are over 900 gold plus mana.

Chaos counter to shadowrath is surprisingly bomber mass I guess? Never thought anyone would praise bomber mass being successful.

Its eclipsor mass. Shadowrath and eclipsor have almost the same cost, so its eclipsor and juggerknights with charge, so now, shadowraths cant escape.
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Aug 17, 2013 4:44 PM #1067927
actually 4 bombers kill 1 swordwrath so you will need 7 bombers. I don't mean full out shadwrath mass, I mean 3 or 4 or them with the rest of army non shadowrath while shadwrath assassinate and kill 1 unit, run, attack again. also I think shadowrath, bombers, and charging juggernights have the same speed so the shadowrath can escape while the bombers keep chasing or the juggernight will run out of charge.
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Aug 21, 2013 4:00 PM #1071049
Quote from FailingAtFailing
A shadowrath rush is easily countered with full castle archers complemented with rage swords and albows. It's almost as bad as a spearton rush.

The shadalbow combo (can I call it that) has been discussed and 2 or 3 fully grown giants with the rest of the population filled with albows will take the combo down if everything is aimed at the albows. As a counter to Chaos, I don't see much effectiveness since the shadow can't shinobi medusas or marrowkai, and not deads either. The only Chaos units they can insta kill are miners, bombers (why would you do this though) and crawlers.


I totally agree about shadowrath rushes. I destroyed him, but that's probably due to him not playing that well. I did talk a lot in the game, but ignore that. www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay2270952&version=1.70