crawlers NEED a buff

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Aug 19, 2013 11:08 AM #1069104
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The bomber, one bomber is all it takes to kill a squad of archidon, ONE BOMBER.

Correction: 3 to kill ONE archer. And wth decent kiting skill, that ONE BOMBER ain't gonna reach a lone archer.




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Deads have 3 bars of health and are armored, they can fuck up archidons and with poison guts they can fuck up even more. They also deal armor piercing damage last I remember.

What? Armor piercing? First time heard of this. Anyway, Deads cost 300 gold and 100 mana. Good luck getting mana early. Then I'll SW spam ya while ya get out one single dead.


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4 crawlers and 1 bomber, then use your first income gain from the miners to buy 2 more bombers and then from their on you have your crawler defense/offense, your anti sword defense/offense.

King: MWAHAHAHA! I've gotten out one crawler! Gotta wait for the others to load.
Me: EAT MA Sword+Archer!
King: COME ON! WHY U NO FINISH YET, MY ARMY?
*lost miners*/*garrison miners, losing eco advantage. Greatly*
King: Eat my 4 crawlers, one bomber!
Me: Bitch please. 3 swords, 2 archers. (This is a hypothesis)
King: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.

AKA: Loading time. That has to be taken into consideration. Crawler: 12 secs. Bomber: 8 secs. Time is also a currency.


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There is one thing I agree to though, castle deads need an upgrade, turrets can help but not fully kill packs of low tier units.

I agree. Also, good luck getting 400 gold and enough time to build ONE turret. (without suffering eco disadvantage or getting pressured)


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Decrease the cost for predatory edge from whatever it was before down to 50 gold and 50 mana, and pact something down to 100 gold and 50 mana. Rage does both but comes at a longer time, usually right when the swordwrath are either no longer bought or are out tier'd by juggerknights and eclispors/speartons and albowtross.

I have no complaints, but then archers will be killed by group of ninja crawlers! D:< But...I still wonder about this. As for rage? Try using rage, then your SW will die faster thanks to two bombs. (Instead of three or something)

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Now 4 swordwrath on what I'm guessing is the map called castle, times will be tough but chaos can pull through in the map called castle with 4 crawlers and 3 bombers, it will get the swordwrath out of your hair due to their cheap cost and quick reload time.

Good luck getting your army before getting killed.

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Now you may be saying "WELL KING what if he gets the classic archidon and 4 swordwrath match, then my 4 crawler and 3 bomber will cease to exist!" Well lets see here, the bomber is MUCH faster than the archidon and one shot from the archidon doesn't kill a bomber (Fuck you bomber, ERM I MEAN HALLELUJAH), and if you just so happened to have not gotten something more then , if the bomber is protected by the crawler then chances are the bomber could kill the archer even if the archer is using backwards kiting, the swordwrath you can take on with the remaining 3 crawlers and if the archidon did not manage to kill a bomber then 2 bombers (chances are that archidon killed one of your crawlers with backwards kiting) and if things look bad retreat in the scrap then send the wounded crawler back to base, it will run and slowly regenerate as it runs to garrison. CHAOS'S AUTO HEAL IS THERE FOR A REASON, to regenerate health from wounded allies, now chaos's auto heal is not as effective towards higher tier units (NAAW really king?) but towards units such as the crawler its heavenly fast when not in combat (now still it does heal you while in combat but your losing more health than you are regenerating, its helpful but its not OP or UP).

King successfully killed an archer (300 gold) thanks to 3 bombers (225 gold) at the expense of 1 crawler (100 gold) (In short, you lose 325 gold to kill 300) while the 4 swords shall happily kill your miners.

That's all. I'm open for opinion.
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Aug 19, 2013 12:04 PM #1069124
Also, deads are pretty much useless unless you 1. use them to kill albows, or 2. mass them atleast 2 rows.
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Aug 19, 2013 1:42 PM #1069180
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MatrixNinja2000;1068671']It's a waste of time for you to be here just to say those things. I think you should think yourself over, sir. Have a nice day and may God have mercy on thy soul.


If you haven't played SE at all, which I assume, you don't, don't comment at all. We are veterans at this game, we know what we're talking about. While you, not played this game at all, or at a high level, barge in and stupidly comment all these ungodly stuff. It's an eyesore, really.
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Aug 19, 2013 3:22 PM #1069232
If you want a crawler buff then not buff the health or the speed, buff their cost or/and their training time...also buff the cost/buy time of their abilities... thats what I should say ^^
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Aug 20, 2013 12:03 AM #1069613
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MatrixNinja2000;1068671']It's a waste of time for you to be here just to say those things. I think you should think yourself over, sir. Have a nice day and may God have mercy on thy soul.


Wow, I feel sorry for you :(
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Aug 20, 2013 2:43 AM #1069786
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What? Armor piercing? First time heard of this. Anyway, Deads cost 300 gold and mana. Good luck getting mana early. Then I'll SW spam ya while ya get out one single dead.


Deads cost 300 G and 100 mana I guess?
And of course deads don't armor piercing but if you let them stack up they can eat your giants and speartons quickly

P.S. Deads OP D:

Anyway, my opinion is, train more swordwrath micro if you wanna pwn cats with swords
out-number cats with swords and split your swords when you see bombers, then tier up to speartons+archer
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Aug 20, 2013 4:11 AM #1069845
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Train more swordwrath micro if you wanna pwn cats with swords
out-number cats with swords and split your swords when you see bombers, then tier up to speartons+archer

Order winning in a nutshell. Add a mage and a ninja and done. A basic strat to victory! And I said "basic" so it isn't guarantee.
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Aug 20, 2013 3:20 PM #1070098
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Order winning in a nutshell. Add a mage and a ninja and done. A basic strat to victory! And I said "basic" so it isn't guarantee.


Last time I tried that I got pwned. Pwned hard.
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Aug 20, 2013 10:11 PM #1070369
One bomber kills an archidon now? Did I miss something?
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Aug 21, 2013 5:38 PM #1071096
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One bomber kills an archidon now? Did I miss something?


lol....where did you got this? Of course not.... lol ^^
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Aug 22, 2013 11:54 AM #1071767
I'm pretty sure 2 bombers brings down 1 archer to 1 health, but the weird thing is, if swordwrath have 2 bars, why would 3 bombers bring the swordwrath to almost zero health?
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Aug 22, 2013 2:11 PM #1071857
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I'm pretty sure 2 bombers brings down 1 archer to 1 health, but the weird thing is, if swordwrath have 2 bars, why would 3 bombers bring the swordwrath to almost zero health?


nope. 3 bombers brind swords also to 1 health...^^
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Aug 23, 2013 9:14 AM #1072489
I need to facepalm so hard at this thread. I have played Chaos a few times, swordwrath is a Chaos's bane. For 25 more gold, sword can kill 2 crawlers, unless the Chaos player micros like a boss.

The thing is though, 2 swords can be gotten out at the same time as 2 crawlers...crawler damage is pathetic, and it has the same training time.

If you go for bombers early game, sword splits will make your bombers well...a waste of money. Then there's always a wall (100 gold, 11 seconds research), then 200 gold to plonk one down and block any sort of bomber attack.

Say you somehow pwn my army that can be made at the *same* speed as you, and way faster if I get enough miners to sword/archer. Then I sit back, go CA and miner up with a small disadvantage, since you have 2 miners going 4 crawler 1 bomber...

Dead is 300 gold/100 mana, and another 300 gold for poison, + you need mana to maintain poison guts. Can you *really* get 600 gold/100+ mana to posion? 300 gold/100 mana for 1 dead won't do much against against like 5054030460 swords, with archers.

And Juggernaut < 3 swords, jugger costs 50 MP. Good luck.
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Aug 23, 2013 12:08 PM #1072535
Juggernaut<3 swords? I don't think so. Also, miner tower is useless. Also... 1 MINER WITH RUSH<1 CRAWLER!!!!!!!! unless the crawler has amazing micro, so you have to use the crawler while the other person can just command attack and focus on other stuff. Crawlers should do slightly more damage than 1 sword but less than a archer.
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Aug 23, 2013 12:21 PM #1072545
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Juggernaut<3 swords? I don't think so. Also, miner tower is useless. Also... 1 MINER WITH RUSH<1 CRAWLER!!!!!!!! unless the crawler has amazing micro, so you have to use the crawler while the other person can just command attack and focus on other stuff. Crawlers should do slightly more damage than 1 sword but less than a archer.


3 swords beat spearton/jugger.