Chaos OP

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Aug 19, 2013 10:29 PM #1069523
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In response to this, for the most part rageswords are a bad idea against chaos. From experience its a lot harder to deal with normal swordmass than it is to deal with rageswordmass.


Generally, if I use swords, I use rage. It's their main selling point really.
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Aug 20, 2013 5:42 AM #1069908
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Chaos is UP Why?

Crawler and swordwrath, swordwrath win while there JUST 25 more gold. It would take 3 crawlers to kill 1 swordwrath.

Ranged units: Deads and archers. dead will win but they cost mana which you don't have in early game

first spellcasters: Marrowkai and magikill: magikill is better

Second spellcasters: meric and medusa, medusa better

tank units: spearton, juggernight. Same

Special units: bomber, shadowrath. Bombers are useless if opponent separate. Shadowrath is a good killing machine against chaos.

Flying units: eclipsor is faster, and cheaper but albow is stronger.

OVERALL: chaos is WAY UP on short maps in beginning but tied in middle: Long: Chaos is a little up. Medium: chaos is reasonably up


I wanna say Order and chaos are not comparable, their units go different role
merics cannot compare with marrowkais/medusas cuz they are for HEALING, not for killing
and magikills are for AOE damage while chaos mages are for single-hit spells
so they aren't comparable

I give you an example, can you compare who is more hardworking?
A lumberjack cut 100 wood
A miner mined 10g Gold

Also, in my opinion, chaos is a bit op on long map like grass hill and a bit up in short map like castle
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Aug 20, 2013 7:45 AM #1069955
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I wanna say Order and chaos are not comparable


This. Its apples and oranges.
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Aug 20, 2013 8:40 AM #1069959
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This. Its apples and oranges.


yes, which one is more delicious?
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Aug 20, 2013 9:11 AM #1069965
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yes, which one is more delicious?


Depends on the person's taste buds. If you say order and chaos depends on the player's skills, well, yes, but there is no pro answer on the first one.
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Aug 20, 2013 12:42 PM #1070042
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Depends on the person's taste buds. If you say order and chaos depends on the player's skills, well, yes, but there is no pro answer on the first one.


You have got the main point
If you like AOE damaging, you go order
If you like single-hit damaging, you go chaos
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Aug 20, 2013 1:59 PM #1070076
u NEWB DONCHA STARTUP DA CHAOS OP ORDER OP STUF
No, seriously. Order and Chaos are balanced regardless of one's opinion.
It's a matter of how you play type is.

You just lose because he's better than you.
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Aug 20, 2013 2:19 PM #1070081
It's all about experience. Learn from the replays! That oughta help. A lot.
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Aug 20, 2013 3:16 PM #1070097
Not this kind of BS again.
I though after a month or so these kind of stuff should have ended already.
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Aug 20, 2013 4:45 PM #1070141
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Not this kind of BS again.
I though after a month or so these kind of stuff should have ended already.


You know, there are now new members here ^^
So its new for them.
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Aug 20, 2013 7:49 PM #1070247
u know ur noob when u say chaos is OP.......
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Aug 23, 2013 9:44 PM #1072804
of course crazyjay unbanned me hee hee anyway yeah im still pretty good i use order now cause chaos sucks
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Aug 23, 2013 10:12 PM #1072812
Archers, shadowrath, magers, swords, and speartons are op against chaos. Castle deads and turrent suck. There are also less research abilitys
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Aug 23, 2013 10:50 PM #1072836
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Archers, shadowrath, magers, swords, and speartons are op against chaos. Castle deads and turrent suck. There are also less research abilitys


I disagree with this. Archers are at an advantage early game since Chaos players can't get out a Dead that fast. After surviving the start it's just different though. Deads poison and are tougher, archers do more damage and are faster. Shadowrath are pretty hard to counter as Chaos though, especially a Shadalbow Strategy. Mages are easily dispatched with a medusa and Poison Spray which usually messes up the game for Order players isn't too effective. I wouldn't say swords are OP as much as Crawlers are UP. Their Upgrades cost more and are worth less and can barely do anything to an enemy who knows what to do at the start of the game. Speartons' Shield Wall is OP, but base units, Juggers and Spears are pretty much the same. Castle Deads and Turrets are horrible though. Both are basically useless. I feel like if Castle Dead was upgraded a bit, it would solve a ton of problems with the equality of Empires at the moment.
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Aug 24, 2013 7:09 AM #1073137
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I disagree with this. Archers are at an advantage early game since Chaos players can't get out a Dead that fast. After surviving the start it's just different though. Deads poison and are tougher, archers do more damage and are faster. Shadowrath are pretty hard to counter as Chaos though, especially a Shadalbow Strategy. Mages are easily dispatched with a medusa and Poison Spray which usually messes up the game for Order players isn't too effective. I wouldn't say swords are OP as much as Crawlers are UP. Their Upgrades cost more and are worth less and can barely do anything to an enemy who knows what to do at the start of the game. Speartons' Shield Wall is OP, but base units, Juggers and Spears are pretty much the same. Castle Deads and Turrets are horrible though. Both are basically useless. I feel like if Castle Dead was upgraded a bit, it would solve a ton of problems with the equality of Empires at the moment.


Shadows and albows are the two most uselsss units dude. If you don't get meduza out fast all your deads or eclipsors might die. Spearton sheild wall should never be bought. Its not op.