Why does everyone hate Naruto? I mean, I'm not a crazy fanboy or anything, but I think that it's pretty good, as I like shows that go on for a long time, and with anime that isn't very common, and find my self following it from time to time. I know why some people hate it, but it seems that it might be a bandwagon thing, so I want to hear your individual reasons. I will play the devils advocate and try to refute them to keep the conversation going.

Shoot.


Also, if you want to, go ahead and share any overrated Anime you think people should just stop watching and why. :D

I don't hate it. I just don't like it because of how it's made to drag on as long as possible without much progression during individual episodes. I'm sure I would like it maybe if someone edited the series down to a manageable amount of episodes, but I don't think the plot is interesting enough to me personally to spend the effort watching the large amount of episodes in it. This is the same reason why I cannot stand other older anime when I try to watch them now as an adult. I recently tried to watch DBZ and it was almost unbearable because of how poorly it was written (or adapted), and how drawn out everything is. This also applies to similar anime like Inuyasha and Bleach, things that were translated a while ago and put on TV when I was a kid. I would still say I like those series, but that's only because I watched them when my attention span and tastes were different. It's pretty much entirely nostalgia with them. With Naruto, however, I never watched it when I was young so I don't have any fond memories of the series. Any time I try to watch it I get a few episodes in and then stop because it's just too long and isn't good enough to make up for it's length.

I personally enjoy the naruto series. I like how they were able to introduce so many characters and give them all such distinctive personalities and tie all of their story lines together. I also how it dips into the past of most of the characters so you arent left wondering why they are the way they are. Animation quality could improve, but its acceptable most of the time.

Overall, 7/10 for me.

I've been planning on watching Naruto this weekend if I get the time, maybe I can chip my opinion in then. Before hand it seems your average action series anime, but that might just be me.

Naruto has been an interesting manga/anime to read/watch, but I hate how long it continues to drag on without really giving much back to its viewers. I personally read the manga exclusively now, because I can get the general gist of the story simply through skimming through the chapters. I also get to skip stupid filler episodes that way ;]

I've personally enjoyed reading Psyren. That thing needed an anime so bad.

Naruto used to be my favorite anime. I don't watch it anymore because it's one of those animes that NEVER end (like CoD).

Well, I can see how that's a problem. Maybe it just matters how you watch it? I don't know, the pacing is kind of bad. As for the animation, I find myself cutting it some slack because, though a lot of animes have much better animation, they usually have a generous time frame, and Naruto has to update in real time. Not much of an excuse but there you have it. On a side note about the animation, it actually gets good on some fights, but the drawings tend to get choppy. As animators most of us favor the animation over how it looks but the masses might not. However, this doesn't mean they succumb all the time. If you watch Naruto vs Pain (really my favorite part of the series) the drawings get so bad that pain literally has Sonic legs while running, but the animation is excellent imo. Plot progression is mighty slow, but I remedy it with this: I get a bunch of episodes ready to watch at a moments notice, then take an afternoon to watch them all. It doesn't feel very long then, but different strokes for different folks.

It started off really really well. Then as soon as the Sasuke vs Itachi arc, everything started getting out of hand. It just got boring after that; the characters seem more shallow and the emotions seem fake and redundant.

I liked it until the Pein arc. From there, I switched to the manga and just read it for the sake of finishing a commitment. It was pretty good early on with the character development and the pacing and the explanation of the 'verse like the ninja towns and their place in the world and the chakra. But then it was like the guy decided to dbz it and just blaze through the plot and drag it on with a strict formula. Yes, people died. Yes, revelations were revealed but CMON just finish it already. I also hate how anybody can pretty much just do anything now which is bullshit. I hate shonen where the technicalities of a fight are downplayed. These days it's jsut "Why? Because Chakra." and "That guy's chakra is stronger than that guy's chakra so he wins" What.

I will say that when the plot does move forward it is relishing. Like the reveal in-universe that Naruto's parents were tied to the Kyubi. I mean, for the past 600 chapters we already KNEW that but then he finds it out for the first time and its very satisfying to come that far full circle.

I switch to One Piece now.

@Hewitt: YES SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS!!! *coughs* I-I mean, yes you do point out a serious point in the series.

Anyways, I feel that yea the animation is good but the visuals are just fancy things that make the plot look better. For me if the plot is bad, its like putting shiny tinsel around a trash. ;-;
My heart breaks for such a thing to happen.

Also One Piece was starting to slowly down too, hopefully it'll begin to pick up speed as well.

At least when One Piece slows down, everyone moves forward. You can clearly see the growth each of the major characters feel and even some ofthe minor one-shot ones get their time in the limelight. The exposition actually helps build the universe.

But watching the Sasuke and his Brother go at it for the nth time without learning anything new is just fucking old.

Ha! Too true. I can agree with that.

"Lucy" is doing well holding his own in the tournament atm ;]

Well, in response to you Hewitt, you're right. The technicalities of fights have been screwed over, albeit that may not be such a bad thing. I mean, it's a little over the top now but it would be pretty boring if the show was how it was meant to be; as in, actual stealth, missions actually going as planned, fights being jutsu - intelligent plan - win. And can we really blame Kishimoto? I mean, look at RHG's. We barely ever adhere strictly to the technicalities (Lookin' at you Zetabrand), as that would take the fun and creativity out of it, but it's a double edged sword as yes, they have recently become overpowered. The main problem with this is the inconsistency. Imo, by all means make Naruto have as steep a learning/power curve as you like, but don't make it that he learns rasengan in a week but barely learns anything in 2.5 years. An example of the steep learning bracket thing done right is Kingdom Hearts. Then again, the combat doesn't have any technicalities. Back on topic, my excuse for them is that Kishimoto is drunk on momentum. He's drawing this while hyperventilating and says, "Infinte chakra? Why the hell not?". While that may work for something like a movie or something that lasts a few hours, or heck, even one or two manga chapters, it doesn't work for an entire arc. Alas, nobody is perfect, and that goes for Kishimoto too.

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Well, in response to you Hewitt, you're right. The technicalities of fights have been screwed over, albeit that may not be such a bad thing. I mean, it's a little over the top now but it would be pretty boring if the show was how it was meant to be; as in, actual stealth, missions actually going as planned, fights being jutsu - intelligent plan - win. And can we really blame Kishimoto? I mean, look at RHG's. We barely ever adhere strictly to the technicalities (Lookin' at you Zetabrand), as that would take the fun and creativity out of it, but it's a double edged sword as yes, they have recently become overpowered. The main problem with this is the inconsistency. Imo, by all means make Naruto have as steep a learning/power curve as you like, but don't make it that he learns rasengan in a week but barely learns anything in 2.5 years. An example of the steep learning bracket thing done right is Kingdom Hearts. Then again, the combat doesn't have any technicalities. Back on topic, my excuse for them is that Kishimoto is drunk on momentum. He's drawing this while hyperventilating and says, "Infinte chakra? Why the hell not?". While that may work for something like a movie or something that lasts a few hours, or heck, even one or two manga chapters, it doesn't work for an entire arc. Alas, nobody is perfect, and that goes for Kishimoto too.

I wasn't talking about the stealth and the tactics and shit. Naruto is wearing Orange for crying out loud, it was obvious that the manga wasn't going in that direction. By technicalities I mean explanations for why moves happen and why they fail or why it's coutnered and shit. Sticking your foot to surfaces used to be an art. Blowing fire was partially explained. The Rasengan made sense. These days its just "I have Chakra, problem?"

And why are you comparing RHGs to naruto. RHG is not a shonen. It's battles dont need to be technical because the basis is on how the fight looks like, not why it looks good.

On the topic of CoD of Anime/manga can I talk about how overrated Fairy Tail is