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Apr 15, 2015 3:50 AM #1347911
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I would say that you are one of the best active and still animating in pivot pivot animator.
What I mean by that is that if someone doesn't do poop or doesn't animoote with pivot anymore (like me) they don't count.

Also, you can just make a custom head and make it a symbol thag way you just have to past it... I dont think it's necessary to tell people on flash to do something else.


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No offense to naberius, though. He's still a beast.
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Apr 15, 2015 4:18 AM #1347918
and heres another person mentioning DD. man i always cringe when somebody talks about DD.

oh, and dat pun tho
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Apr 15, 2015 4:22 AM #1347920
Is it the way they say it or just DD by itself?

I forsee Waffles vs Naberius someday
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Apr 15, 2015 4:43 AM #1347928
DD is the abbreviation of the pivot community "DarkDemon", which is full of the so-called 'elites'

edit: i didn't see the hidden message
i'm also excited when that day comes. i might get my ass kicked
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Apr 15, 2015 5:28 AM #1347943
I was talking about stickpage drone. I am well aware that people elsewhere are better.
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Apr 15, 2015 11:38 AM #1348082
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DD is the abbreviation of the pivot community "DarkDemon", which is full of the so-called 'elites'


...And how true is that compared to what you've been able to lay on the table?
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Apr 15, 2015 11:51 AM #1348088
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...And how true is that compared to what you've been able to lay on the table?
I can't gauge it as he has an entirely different axis of pivoting, comparing it to DD-style is like comparing apples to oranges.

DD-Style: Lots of easing, realistic movement and weight
Thai-style: Lots of cinematics, FX and speed

Yes, I call it Thai-style because the pivoters that use it are from Thailand's stick forum.
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Apr 15, 2015 2:00 PM #1348142
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Yes, I call it Thai-style because the pivoters that use it are from Thailand's stick forum.


Meh, I'd prefer to call it "TopKillGrean Style" because the only one who has been using the style is only topkillgrean himself.

what pisses me off most about DD is that they didn't consider people's way of animating as 'styles'. instead, they uses themselves as the center of the universe, judging others all around.

I must admit that the DD's way of animating truly puts so much work in to the animations, but in my opinion, they are not entertaining to watch at all.
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Apr 15, 2015 5:08 PM #1348220
I'd call it "Flash style" since it's harder to do smooth and easy movements in flash because you have to redraw the stick every frame. In fact, people dislike it so much they make their characters fast so they can avoid redrawing sticks even more. In flash it's hard to do foot placement because of that, but because you draw stuff and you have all those flashy tools at hand you can use FX and cinematics to cover up your bad animation, like glitter on turd. Some of the better flashies focus on movements too and become well-loved.

In pivot, there's no excuse for speed or bad foot placement, since you can move skeletal figures with pixel-perfect precision. Flash is good if you want to do special effects, cinematics, fancy menu stuff and sound. Pivot's far better for character animation. "Pivot style" is when you focus more on flow, weight, physics, all that good stuff.

People always go on about flash vs pivot, but you know what is a good idea? Using pivot for movements, bringing that into flash and then going all FX on it. Honestly, if you can animate movements well, you won't need blurs or shakycam. I'm at that level right now, pivot-wise.

But flash AND pivot?


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I edited the pivot so I could animate the laser firing at the start in flash. (The disintegration part is still pivot.)

I still suck at flash, but there's my point. People consider them two things that go against each other. I think they'll compliment the hell out of each other.
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Apr 15, 2015 8:20 PM #1348268
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I'd call it "Flash style" since it's harder to do smooth and easy movements in flash because you have to redraw the stick every frame. In fact, people dislike it so much they make their characters fast so they can avoid redrawing sticks even more. In flash it's hard to do foot placement because of that, but because you draw stuff and you have all those flashy tools at hand you can use FX and cinematics to cover up your bad animation, like glitter on turd. Some of the better flashies focus on movements too and become well-loved.

In pivot, there's no excuse for speed or bad foot placement, since you can move skeletal figures with pixel-perfect precision. Flash is good if you want to do special effects, cinematics, fancy menu stuff and sound. Pivot's far better for character animation. "Pivot style" is when you focus more on flow, weight, physics, all that good stuff.

People always go on about flash vs pivot, but you know what is a good idea? Using pivot for movements, bringing that into flash and then going all FX on it. Honestly, if you can animate movements well, you won't need blurs or shakycam. I'm at that level right now, pivot-wise.

But flash AND pivot?


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I edited the pivot so I could animate the laser firing at the start in flash. (The disintegration part is still pivot.)

I still suck at flash, but there's my point. People consider them two things that go against each other. I think they'll compliment the hell out of each other.


So, combining the best of both worlds, are we? You're onto something, and I love it. Even if it creates an axis of evil that can curbstomp Easytoon.

Easytoon doesn't get that much representation, anyway.
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Apr 15, 2015 8:32 PM #1348275
Honestly, character animation in flash is focused a lot more heavily on realism rather than cram as many frames into this to make it as smooth as possible as it is in pivot, which is yes a factor of difficulty to some extent, but at the same time that just isn't necessary. Real people don't take the amount of time a movement takes in pivot to do things usually. The smooth style is nice and all, but it's inefficient and in my opinion smooth movements do not equal good movements. Your movements are only good when you reach the point where you fully understand the physics of how things actually move and can accurately depict that through animation, not when you can make any move you do look as smooth as possible.
Example: http://pivotblimp.deviantart.com/art/Wing-Chun-Stylin-503293926
Probably not what waffles would call "good movements" in pivot because it's not 200 frames per hit, but on a technical level, like if you relate the way they move to real life, it is pretty much spot on
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Apr 15, 2015 9:03 PM #1348288
Pivot likes to focus on realism, too. Weight, physics, reactions, etc. My personal style is just slowy and flowy, and Sifter is an overeaser by far. Don't judge all of pivot on us guys. We're only intermediate after all. Also drone the movements themselves may appear realistic but they forget the stuff like idling, which is a very realistic thing since momentum doesn't vanish and people don't freeze after a movement stops.

Ever hear of Wraybies?

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Tell me that doesn't look hella cray.

It comes down to animation styles, man. To the individual. That guy may have developed a realistic style, but there are bound to be other flashies who don't have similar styles and still look good to the eye.

There's no downside to combining the two, man. Stop the conflict. Love and peace.
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Apr 15, 2015 9:26 PM #1348296
If Mgee is only inters then I'm low beginner ._.
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Apr 15, 2015 9:32 PM #1348298
True waffles, true. You have a point, I'll give you that.
Also setto, where you under the assuassumption that you were better than that? lmao
Anyway, yeah, this probably isn't the place for this discussion anyway I suppose, big ups to Naberius for letting us hijack his thread like this for a little while lol
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Apr 15, 2015 10:00 PM #1348305
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True waffles, true. You have a point, I'll give you that.
Also setto, where you under the assuassumption that you were better than that? lmao
Anyway, yeah, this probably isn't the place for this discussion anyway I suppose, big ups to Naberius for letting us hijack his thread like this for a little while lol


Lol thanks nab
Also, I knew i must have been pretty low when it comes to skill lmao but im working on it :P
I thought i was sort of in the middle
hi beginner
mid beginner
<-------------------setto is here :L
low beginner

btw nab, im at DD but i dont see anything like dat :P
although i do like topgrean style lmao
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