Quote from Jutsu

]You did nothing to invalidate my opinion of these low risk, great reward mages. Just because the champions you listed are popular right now, doesn't mean the other mages I was describing are weak.

League of Legends is intrinsically a competitive game. All level of play in League of Legends are to be considered competitive play by the standards of almost any other game. Because you're facing other players in a contest to win. That's competition. Whether you play to win, or, like me, find entertainment in it regardless of winning or losing. The goal of the game is inherently competitive and because of this I believe the game should absolutely be balanced around competitive play.
I don't however think it should be only balanced around top level play. I hope this helps clarify.
The idea that a players opinion is invalidated because they are not top level or that their opinion is invalidated because it doesn't adhere to the current zeitgeists of the metagame is illogical. Especially considering the ever changing nature of the game. This is a path of thought I first experienced playing starcraft and experienced the most playing starcraft 2. I feel like this mentality stems from players feeling it necessary to defend the developers of the game they enjoy, almost as if a perceived failure of the developers is also perceived as a personal failure. This is easily reinforced by the recent studies that came out about video game console fanboys, you should look it up it's fascinating.
Anyways.
You see the percentage of players who are to be considered "top level" is so minuscule that it doesn't make any sense to only expect the game to be balanced for those players. I don't understand why players of certain games are willing to accept gameplay that isn't balanced on all levels of play, especially when it isn't really that hard to pull off. If you've ever played competitive pokemon, you'll understand that it's balanced on all levels of play. But pokemon isn't dictated on a competitive level by the developers, instead the fans. It stands to reason that the people who understand the game the most, are those who play it the most. The players. the fans run the servers, the fans make the websites and analysis for each pokemon and it's the fans who establish the rules for competitive play.
So why settle for a game that isn't balanced on ALL levels of play? Especially when it could be.

Quote from jdogg

The thing is I wasn't just listing popular champions, I truly believe that they are currently the strongest champions. I know it seems cliche because they are the most popular, but I think that, in your words, in a competitive game like League of Legends, the most popular champions generally also reflect the strongest champions. Because of this I don't believe these low-risk high reward champions are broken, except for maybe nidalee.

Quote from Jutsu

That's not what I said at all, you idiot.

I bet you're just pissy because you play one of the low risk high reward mages I was talking about.

Quote from McRhook

Not many people know how badly talon can wreck kassadin.

Quote from Jutsu

Regardless, I wasn't describing those champions as over powered. I'm merely pointing out that there's no logical reason on a competitive level to play a character that is insane risk for average reward when you could just play a character that is low risk for great rewards. And that's what my criticism of riot is all about right now.

Quote from DiPi

Starting from how you tried to belittle me, you can check on lolking my profile (dipistyle)(on EUW) and then show me how much I love using the mages you're talking about (for those who do not want to check, I main Talon). Also, this makes me understand that you're quite childish

Going back to what I mainly said, all you wrote, in my opinion, was just you being pissy about the new patch changes and the gameplay concerning some classes

Assassins are mainly Anti-Carry/Mages classes, thus the important thing about them is not about "dealing more damage", but to deal the amount of damage necessary to kill the target. Since the target of assassins are mainly AD/AP carries, who don't have a lot of health, they must have high mobility and shouldn't do extreme amounts of damage

Mages, instead, are mainly AOE/AOD AP carries and what they gain in power and range, they lose in mobility and defense (there are some exceptions in this, though, but that's not the point). Said this, mages, in teamfight, stay mainly behind tanks and fighters to deal damage, because of what I said before

What I'm trying to say is, everyone has a role in the game. Khazix is an assassin, thus he must play as such and that means he must have low durability, high mobility and enough damage to kill a carry. Mages, instead, must deal tons of AP damage and have low mobility/durability. Said this, if they thought that Khazix was dealing too much damage and had too much durability for an assassin and thus they nerfed both of them, I think they did well. In exchange, plus, they buffed his spikes' slow, which is nice. This is the essence of every kind of game: if you lose something, you gain something

What you're just doing is practically whining how the champion you bought got nerfed and moved the argument to implement what you consider to be "OP champions" (strangely enough, you mainly listed mages :\)

Quote from Flashwire

Kass is nowhere he used to be since the last nerf on him. I've been saving my ban spot for someone else worthy.

Quote from McRhook

Not many people know how badly talon can wreck kassadin.

Quote from jdogg

You have no reason to be spiteful about what Jutsu said when you started the pissing contest by mocking his opinion without even making an argument to it.

Quote from jdogg

Of course he can, Talon's kit is fundamentally broken. It makes no sense to put a silence on a gapclosing ability. It's almost as retarded as the old Kassadin. It allows for him to be a low risk champion who can jump in, use his rotation of spells, and run away without the enemy doing anything about it. Talon has 0 counterplay, which is why he is a dumb champion. If his spells weren't so clunky I'd be afraid he'd become very popular which would be extremely annoying considering how stupid his kit is.

Quote from DiPi

Yep, generalizing without insulting what someone else said is spitiful, while calling someone else idiot and trying to belittle him is not
*slow clapping*
I just gave a simple view of what Justu said in a ironic way, since there was no need for a long argumentation (I thought for him the message was implicit)
Since then he asked for it, I gave him one, nothing more, nothing less
Also, let him answer by himself, we don't need a shining white knight passing by

Quote from DiPi

Talon is not broken
What he gains in burst he loses in escapes/mobility/sustains, since he's the only assassin that has long cooldowns on his abilities, especially his escape one (the ultimate, btw, which isn't even that great, to be honest, if you compare it to the other assassins' ones)
That's why he isn't chosen often: until he hits level 6, he's almost a sitting duck and whenever he attacks he's a sink-or-swim champion

Quote from jdogg

You have no reason to be spiteful about what Jutsu said when you started the pissing contest by mocking his opinion without even making an argument to it.