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Jan 20, 2014 11:14 AM #1144311
Omg i cant wait
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Jan 20, 2014 9:06 PM #1144457
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Yes, 3 empires may be enough....
but what I think the problem is that those who cannot pay for the game can have no chance to try other empires and get more fun
when they can only stick to only order empire, they will just feel bored and unfair, and think there are advantages for those who pay for the game
because some players may not play good with order, but have the chance to raise their ratings through training with other empires

From my point of view, a good game should always be created and designed for the sake of most players
I can understand that more difficulties in game fixing may be resulted if there are 4 empires
however, I still think that the feeling of most players is more important

Even there are difficulties to make the power of 4 empires balance, if there are chances for players to feel that they can get different kinds of fun by training with different empires and strategies, I am sure that most players are willing to be patient and wait for the balance.

That is somehow a decision-making for short-term and long-term . In short-term, if 3 empires exist while 2 of them require players to pay, then the game can make more money, but at the same time some people may quit. But if 4 empires exist while 2 are free and 2 need to pay, then there are more difficulties to control the game balance, but more players can find the fun of this game.


Maybe they could let you have like 5 trails for each empire, and then choose which one you like best.
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Jan 21, 2014 1:22 AM #1144562
Well, they could make it so every 5 wins with Order is a free trial for Chaos. This encourages people to play the game and try new things. Then Gold Membership would turn into permanent Chaos.
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Jan 21, 2014 4:17 AM #1144653
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Maybe they could let you have like 5 trails for each empire, and then choose which one you like best.


just for my own feel....

5 trials really mean nothing - -
with only 5 trials, you cannot even get enough training for a single empire, especially for chaos, without enough training, then it would definitely result in a loss in short map like castle, and then waste the trials :/

I prefer the option of developing one more free empire, or if not, then more wins = more trials to encourage people to play more
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Jan 21, 2014 4:40 AM #1144659
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Well lets wait and see after the this empire comes out. Me im favor of many empire I know there a lot of starcraft ppl here but you have to remember this isn't starcraft in my opinion this game is still open to many empires you can have goblin empire (little green stick men ;P) a empire of slaves that band together (consisting of order and chaos slaves, powers and skills but not all the same) and maybe even more. but I noticed with just the 2 empires we have right now there are not many ways to start you either start one way or another same why if you fighting chaos or order with new empire you may have to start a different way and different strategy but in the end it will boil down to this starting strategy for one empire and this start strategy for another. In my old game there where many factions about 5 I think, and you could not always start the same there where many ways to start depending on which faction you where playing and I think multiple empires will enhance game balance. but of course that takes time and it just us SE players opinons ;)


Let's have 10 empires. That enough for every player to play?

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just for my own feel....

5 trials really mean nothing - -
with only 5 trials, you cannot even get enough training for a single empire, especially for chaos, without enough training, then it would definitely result in a loss in short map like castle, and then waste the trials :/

I prefer the option of developing one more free empire, or if not, then more wins = more trials to encourage people to play more


Trials are meant for you to just well, try chaos. Never use the trials for ranking, because you won't enjoy the full course of chaos gaming there. Instead, play the trial with a friend. You can drag the match long and long and long... until you decide that chaos is money-worthy or not.
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Jan 21, 2014 9:36 PM #1144913
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Let's have 10 empires. That enough for every player to play?



Trials are meant for you to just well, try chaos. Never use the trials for ranking, because you won't enjoy the full course of chaos gaming there. Instead, play the trial with a friend. You can drag the match long and long and long... until you decide that chaos is money-worthy or not.


that is what I mean , the purpose of providing trial is actually only making advertisements
so it is meaningless to provide trials under such condition

and in some situations, the trials may even be wasted due to lag out or disconnection .

So what I just want to say is that striking a balance between game quality and business purpose, then the game will be able to continue and be great
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Jan 22, 2014 12:58 AM #1144974
The problem with a free empire mystery, I see your point in that players will definitely appreciate 2 free empires to play as, but the members of this forum do make valid points.

1. Balance - With OvO, it's ok. CvC it's ok. OvC is intresting. We've yet to see how well OvE or EvO will end out. Before we can even consider a 4th empire, we have to see how the 3rd goes.

2. Money - I'm assuming SE isn't cheap to run, with the servers and all. I assume they only make their money from people who are generous enough to pay for SE coins or Chaos. With advertisement on Facebook, I'm sure Jay/Brock have to pay some amount of money to them. While a 4th empire that's free would be great, it's not easy/cheap at all, so there is reason why a free empire that's not Order is unlikely.

3. Ideas - This may not be a problem per se, due to the creativity of SE's fans/devs, but remember they have to follow guidelines like 9 units max, some reason why they'd be fighting (Elementals are now free w/ Medusa dead and I guess are revolting, worried Order may enslave them too.) and balance is a whole different story.

But then again, these 3 points can easily be rebutted.
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Jan 22, 2014 1:58 AM #1144999
1) They confirmed there'd only be 3 empires.

2) I heard an interesting idea. Five trials for each empire, then you choose on empire and that's your "free" empire. It'd honestly be a good idea if it wasn't for the shitton of alts every pro player has.
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Jan 22, 2014 2:27 AM #1145008
But then, alts. You could have 3 alts, one with each empire.
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Jan 22, 2014 6:26 AM #1145068
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But then, alts. You could have 3 alts, one with each empire.


Yeah, and you can make more than 3. Get it now?
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Jan 22, 2014 7:02 AM #1145077
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But then, alts. You could have 3 alts, one with each empire.


THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID. JESUS GOD DAMNIT PEOPLE THAT DON'T READ. (okay, I'm not this angry, but come on, read!)

I said it was actually a decent idea if there wasn't a shitload of alts (and alts were so easy to make)

Anyhow it was on this place: http://stick-empires.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:11257

Of course we use the new wiki now though.
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Jan 31, 2014 7:06 PM #1150546
I think Ai is right we should have 10 empires good idea AI!
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Jan 31, 2014 7:54 PM #1150560
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I think Ai is right we should have 10 empires good idea AI!


That'll probably be done by 2020.
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Feb 1, 2014 10:49 AM #1150909
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I think Ai is right we should have 10 empires good idea AI!

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Feb 1, 2014 10:55 AM #1150911
We should be able to "create" our own empire..... such as combine order and chaos....
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