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Jan 31, 2014 5:12 AM #1150219
I'm becoming a Fries investigator now, haha. But I have looked into his recent posts. Number one, he never voted to lynch Exilement. In fact he referenced:

Quote from Fries
I don't blame Azure for not retracting his vote. At least he's sticking to it. I would have voted for Exile if so many people hadn't voted for Gamer; my vote wouldn't have really changed anything.


He strictly avoided voting for Exile just because he felt like bandwagoning on the Gamer train. And then later hopped on the Jutsu train. And did anyone else catch his most recent post?

Quote from Fries
There's no getting off the Ride. The Ride never ends.


That seems pretty damn ominous.

And to wrap it all up, he has done absolutely nothing in helping provide input on clues. Just pointless posts that show he's active, but not contributing. Anyone else find this strange?

In the case that I can't post after this: I vote to lynch Fries.
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Jan 31, 2014 5:14 AM #1150220
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That's how Dark, the previous winner of this game, won. He stayed so low nobody noticed him missing. That's why we should take note of every players here, especially the inactives. Of course, that doesn't mean we should slack off on the clues and the actives, but it's a reminder.


Do you have anything other than the fact that he's inactive against him? No clues? No hints?

Whereas he has some defense considering he confirmed that he didn't get a PM earlier. There's not much evidence against him, and he has a defense.
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Jan 31, 2014 5:17 AM #1150221
Forgotten if you're referring to me, then you forgot the post you directly replied to:

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Holy shit. Something just hit me. Stay with me here guys. Remember this post:



Now more specifically:



I thought about this for a second, and then looked back farther in the game. The thing is, I don't think we should be looking at this from an angle of write-up by write-up. I don't think a single clue will point out the killer. You need to put them together. Remember why we lynched AtomicApple? The heat references. Fries are made from being cooked in extreme heat. And what are fries normally covered in? SEA salt!

As for the m? Guys:

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What I'm trying to say is that regardless of his activity, it's just him pointing out obvious facts about the game or jumping onto what other people said. His remarks on the messaging situation are just copies of what Ai was saying.

Edit: Sorry replied to quick. Didn't see you add the quote.
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Jan 31, 2014 5:23 AM #1150222
Both Sacred and Fries have reasons I'd lynch them, whereas extrafred just has inactivity.

I vote for Nobody to be lynched.

EDIT: Also going to head to bed. Hopefully ambivalencey means I won't screw up like I did with the Jutsu incident.
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Jan 31, 2014 5:23 AM #1150223
Im just guessing that Azure voted for exilement too take out suspicion from himself, seeing as how they were both wolves, Azure mustve seen exile as a burden and backstabbed him. Anyways, i guess fries is our prime suspect for now, unless he makes a good counter arguement, ill check this thread when i wake up, im not going to vote yet.

-Off to bed
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Jan 31, 2014 5:26 AM #1150224
oxi also claimed he received the PM I mentioned. If he were the wolf, he wouldn't have received it since he got the PM telling him he was a wolf, which also acted as a reminder. So I officially cross oxi off my list.
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Jan 31, 2014 5:42 AM #1150225
oxi could've lied about getting the PM. Ever thought of that?
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Jan 31, 2014 6:10 AM #1150231
Alright well I'm ready to defend myself. First of all, Sacred, I've been one of the lead contributers in the thread regarding the previous writeups. Go back and check. I've thoroughly analyzed every write up and put forward my two cents. I didn't do this writeup because my other analysis posts that took like an hour and a half to create got mostly ignored, despite taking up like half the page. I was actually a bit disappointed that I was not considered one of the "leaders" in the writeup, but I didn't say anything so as not to attract unwanted attention from the wolves.

I am willing to answer any questions you have for me in order to prove my innocence. If it comes down to it, like a tie between me and someone else, I won't try to be a dick and try to take him down with me.

Although I will do what I can to survive. Voting for others, ect. If its a tie, and my vote has already been cast for the opposition, I will revoke my vote for that person and die alone. I won't pull a Jutsu (implying I'm even capable of that shit) and try to take others with me.

Edit: I'd suggest voting to lynch someone who actually hasn't contributed at all...
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Jan 31, 2014 6:29 AM #1150234
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oxi could've lied about getting the PM. Ever thought of that?

WHat he said was exactly what I remembered. Which...sadly I couldn't remember the time you guys questioned me, since I usually only remember the general ideas. Ah well, at least I do not suspect him as much.

EDIT: Regard Fries' posts, here's the link: http://forums.stickpage.com/search.php?searchid=2064852 for easy searching.
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Jan 31, 2014 6:33 AM #1150235
Gamer, that link doesn't work. Well, at least for me it doesn't. It brings me to the "sorry no matches" page.

Edit: I see what you're trying to link, but it doesn't come up for me. I'm pretty sure you could just go to my profile and see from there, seeing as this is pretty much the only thread I've posted in for the past few days
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Jan 31, 2014 6:38 AM #1150237
The posts you've made. And from it, I could see either voting, random comments, agreements with other analysis, and one breakdown of the 2nd day.
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Jan 31, 2014 6:41 AM #1150239
I see. Maybe I didn't contribute as much as I thought... I thought I had pretty good points to bring to the table. Guess it didn't look like that to other people. I know for sure I've done more than most others, but I guess I was holding myself too high.

Well, I still stand on my previous statements. I'll do what it takes to prove I'm innocent if possible, and I won't try to take other people down with me if it comes down to the wire.
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Jan 31, 2014 6:52 AM #1150242
Reap4u's internet curplunked and it coincidentally came back. Luckily, we seem to be on the subject of my person so I don't really have to go that far back to converse in a subject that I have knowledge in. Unluckily, this only makes more skepticism since I "conveniently" began posting right at the time of my accusing. Sorry bout that.

Working off an iPhone right now, hoping to keep up much more avidly now.
My apologies again.
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Jan 31, 2014 6:54 AM #1150243
As Reap comes on, I go off.

I'm going to sleep. I will be awake in about six hours. Goodnight, everyone. I love you all.
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Jan 31, 2014 6:57 AM #1150244
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First of all, Sacred, I've been one of the lead contributers in the thread regarding the previous writeups. Go back and check. I've thoroughly analyzed every write up and put forward my two cents.


You just affirmed yourself on top of my suspect list. Lead contributing?

Quote from Fries
I agree. We should at least try to apply logic to our decisions.

Quote from Fries
We should wait to accuse people; at least until we get a clue. I know they could be rigged, but it's better to go off of something than nothing.

Quote from Fries
Fucking yes. We need to gather more opinions on the matter and wait to see how the story progresses.


Where?

Quote from Fries
I'm going to completely analyze the entire last paragraph. Keep in mind, I'm not suggesting we vote for anyone yet, nor am I accusing anyone. Do your own research when choosing to vote; this is what I have to put forward:


This could be a misdirect, getting us to think AI was not present when the crime occurred. On the other side, assuming this is not a misdirect, this segment could be here to try to convince us that AI is not affiliated with the killer(s) at all, while he could very well be one.

This was already pointed out by other players, before you.

We should refer back to the claims and statements Golden made before his death.


We can clearly see Golden's suspicions of Gamer in this quote. Gamer may have seen Golder as a threat for suspecting him, and decided he needed to go.

The same Gamer you bandwagoned on and then off of?

I don't even need to underline anything here. It's entirely possible that Purp3L took this to heart and chose to take him out.

This doesn't help much.

We need to look for players who's usernames would imply they have some affiliation with fruit. Atomicapple would probably be the first choice, but who else may possibly have something to do with cherries?

Read below.

The kanji here directly translates to "Sino-Japanese War". The second Sino Japanese War, which is more commonly referred to as World War 2, ended with two atomic bombs being dropped on Japanese soil. This again points to Atomicapple. Although this is a seemingly very big strike against Apple, would a killer really leave behind such a blatant clue? This could very well be a misdirect, but it's for you to decide. I'm on the fence about this one...


The Sino-Japanese War was already being discussed by others. You revealed information we were already bound to discover. No "leading" here.

This may very well be a misdirect. The "Uhh" part doesn't seem very convincing, and I feel like Scarecrow would respond by phrasing his answer in a different way, especially when making a claim about the cause of death. He'd most likely back up his experience in the field of eastern medicine, saying something like "I have many years of practice in blah blah and blah." If I was him, I'd want people to know I knew what I was talking about, rather than responding with "Uhh..."

This was an opinion on an eventually ignored aspect. And we all know now Scarecrow was innocent.

I'd also like to point out what Zed said (in the writeup):

First of all, it's a bit suspicious that Zed left the group to go by himself. Since the story doesn't elaborate more, we don't know if Zed ever reached his proclaimed destination. He could have been out picking cherries...

This was speculation and opinion once again made by you.

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Don't take these as accusations, it's simply my take on what's been provided for us.

Also, like I've done with Golden in this post, if a player ends up eaten, we should note everything they said and everyone they voted for before being killed.

You're stating the obvious here. We know to do this.


In this post you pushed for AtomicApple to be lynched because the clues pointed to him. And as we all know, he turned up innocent. So this "lead contributing" thing here practically falls entirely.

So back to, Where?!

Quote from Fries
I still can't get over this line from the writeup. I understand it could just be a plain threat from the wolves saying we're eventually all going to die and never get back, but if this points to anyone it has to be Exilement.


This was after Azure started pointing the finger at Exilement. But you never actually voted against him. You could easily be trying to sway the public into thinking you're not in cahoots with him by slipping this in. And if you're gonna use this quote as leverage, then I can use the fact that I lead the Exilement lynch as leverage.

So where?!?!

Quote from Fries
I don't think we can rely on patterns too much. Remember, the wolves are one of us. They're playing with us. They can see everything we say and suggest. (Fucking NSA over here.) The moment we figure out, or at least think we've figured something out, the wolves can just as easily revamp their strategy and style.

Quote from Fries
Thing is, we have guessed incorrectly on all of the clues, executing innocents for the wrong reasons. We either failed to find the actual clue, or fell bait to the planted clue. In the case of Atomicapple, I'm fairly certain it's the latter.

Quote from Fries
My question is why are we even considering trying to lynch two people? I can't think of a better way of helping the wolves; hell, we're doing their job if we kill two of our own again.





This is not a valid way to vote, anymore. Didn't you read the post Gyo made a few pages back? He's only accepting the following format:
"I vote for ______ to be lynched."


WHERE ARE YOU CONTRIBUTING IN INVESTIGATIONS?! ALL YOU'RE DOING IS GIVING US ADVICE WE ALREADY KNOW.

You have not thoroughly analyzed all the write-ups like you say. My lynch for you stands. I've done the dirty work for the others. It's up to the rest of you to decide.
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