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Feb 1, 2014 12:00 AM #1150621
I believe Azure kite wanted exilement dead. That would mean the wolfs left are active. I also believe the clues for exilement were left there for us to lynch exilement, this would have two benefits for the wolves:
-They get rid of exilement
-They get us to trust more on clues
If I'm not wrong, but I think I am, your inactive list had around 9 players that are still alive if we killed all of them the numbers would greatly benefit the wolves, they win if they the number of rabbits is the same as them.
It's actually quite a great strategy for wolves to be able to kill inactives by day, drawing little to no attention to them because their intents are backed up by you and have logic behind them, and actives by day. Suddenly there are less than 10 players left and the only one we got is exilement, the one they handed over. And of course, Azure kite, sheer luck and courtesy of Jutsu. We had no clue, we weren't even close to Azure and we're not any closer to the next wolf.
Inactives are a potential active. You had me on your lynching list when I wasn't really being inactive, but not drawing too much attention to myself.
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Feb 1, 2014 12:18 AM #1150624
The wolves win if their numbers equal the rabbits, but they also win if they kill all the active players. Not officially, but by default. No one will be left to lynch them.

Currently the inactives are S21-P, Reap4u, and extrafred, with Sweeto on the borderline. Sure, they could become active in the future like you did but by then we could be dead.

Azure Kite presumably wanted to lynch Exilement so that we would see we'd caught a wolf and we'd trust him. Killing Exilement can't have been good for them in itself.

When Gyohdon says that the wolves can plant evidence, does this mean at the scene of the crime, or does this mean in their own posts? When I asked Gyohdon to put a link to the clues in the first post he refused, saying that it was up to us to judge what is or isn't a clue. That implies that there are clues in posts other than Gyohdon's. Perhaps he gives them something which they have to say at some point during the day. If I'm right, we can trust the clues which have been left at the crime scene, and we also need to look at other people's posts. Exilement clearly didn't say anything like this - he only had one post - but Azure Kite had 65 posts which I'm looking through now to see if anything backs me up on this.
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Feb 1, 2014 12:27 AM #1150629
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Currently the inactives are S21-P, Reap4u, and extrafred, with Sweeto on the borderline. Sure, they could become active in the future like you did but by then we could be dead.

Raptor has fewer posts than Sweeto.

[QUOTE=]When Gyohdon says that the wolves can plant evidence, does this mean at the scene of the crime, or does this mean in their own posts? When I asked Gyohdon to put a link to the clues in the first post he refused, saying that it was up to us to judge what is or isn't a clue. That implies that there are clues in posts other than Gyohdon's. Perhaps he gives them something which they have to say at some point during the day. If I'm right, we can trust the clues which have been left at the crime scene, and we also need to look at other people's posts. Exilement clearly didn't say anything like this - he only had one post - but Azure Kite had 65 posts which I'm looking through now to see if anything backs me up on this.[/QUOTE]
I think what might be more likely is that the clue found on the body (like in _Ai_'s hand) can be planted, but clues within the rest of the main body (like the repeated mentioning of salt) are Gyo's own doing.

Think about it. Inactives won't be able to post clues if they're a wolf, so Gyo can hardly give them something to say (Exilement wasn't talking). It's doubtful the clues in the body of write-ups are done by the wolves, but it would make sense that they are the ones who plant notes on the deceased's body.
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Feb 1, 2014 12:30 AM #1150631
LOL FUCKING NINJA'd by Zed.


Whoa whoa whoa run that back? Lynch me, wth?

I'm partly responsible for killing 2 wolves (RIP Scarecrow, wish you were here). And save this one piece of evidence There are no clues that point to me. You guys have to realize the clues aren't single "ITS HIM" answers, you need to PUT THEM TOGETHER, unless we have multiple pieces of evidence against one person I say we don't lynch them. Using the SEA salt shit to damn a single person into wolfdom is just ludicrous, for either me OR zed or ANYONE for that matter.

Also, the thing is, our wolf is most likely active. There's no way Azure-kite was the only active wolf this whole game. If you haven't noticed only active players have been eaten so far, we can continue to lynch inactive players, but we are shooting at the wrong target if you ask me. You can say we have 0 benefit from killing them, but if the wolf is an active player then we're just wasting our lynchings and time. I have a gut feeling though there there are 2 more wolves out there. I don't know why, but lets not rule anything out. Also, I think I know might know why azure-kite wanted to kill exilement (cuse' I've been wondering, not sure about you guys).

if you look back http://gyazo.com/9994cd9bfd716de11f69f448ee7707e9 azure kite was the person to first put any sort of blame on exilement. It seems strange at first, until you consider the fact that Azure-kite (and perhaps any other wolves) realized exilement was inactive/dead weight, so why not use him as a patsy? Why not PLANT fake evidence as a wolf, call out that evidence to all the rabbits, have them lynch him, and then find an actual wolf? Azure-kite could then just fly under the radr by saying I killed a wolf, why would I be one and do that, and not just any wolf EXILEMENT. Assuming the game hadn't gone on TOO long to where people could call him out saying exilement would probably remain inactive the rest of the game anyway, he'd perma' remove all suspicion from him, and being a wolf himself it'd only be a matter of time till' he won.

Now this seems a bit far of a stretch, BUT nobody paid attention to his claim. He realized this and decided to push the envelope a bit harder http://gyazo.com/e15ccf37cd7fcbf6c82322ce41c95995 by re-calling attention to it. Fortunately his plan didn't stick, and so http://gyazo.com/1f86fcd3472691908d89a04b79450fb9 (perhaps, not necessarily saying he did it on purpose but) Fries came to his aid. This STILL didn't work so he took "drastic" measures http://gyazo.com/ebb2a76b4c01699543343b27f816bb48 and even put up a starting defense with http://gyazo.com/ef6a9b01e678a609e194accab220a569. Later on he keeps pushing http://gyazo.com/f9b60ad70559062c068d938ea2b80e64 Sacred is for it too though this is nothing incriminating, just something to note http://gyazo.com/e51247737de2646c9c938762fe2c64dd
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Feb 1, 2014 12:30 AM #1150632
Alright then, looks like we lost _Ai_ i wonder what the wolves motives are for killing him :I Also i'll try looking onto the clues today but the information i found so far have been said, although there might be something that missed our minds, never know.

Anyways it looks like were arguing to whether kill inactives or not. I support killing inactives but we should try to find clues on them first before killing them, that way we have less risk of them being innocent. Honestly the only clues i got for inactives are the salt dead thing for reap4u, and salt could be for sweets like sweeto. These are all i got for now, im going to try to look for some clues and hints leading toward the inactives and maybe some of the actives.
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Feb 1, 2014 12:36 AM #1150635
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I'm partly responsible for killing 2 wolves (RIP Scarecrow, wish you were here).
Hmm alright.
[QUOTE=]Azure-kite could then just fly under the radar by saying I killed a wolf, why would I be one and do that, and not just any wolf EXILEMENT. [/QUOTE]
Wait what? What would you call the beginning of your statement then?

Your defense is void. I don't think you're a wolf due to the lack of evidence, but that hypocritical statement was funny nonetheless.
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Feb 1, 2014 12:40 AM #1150637
Him killing exilement was only a viable option because exilement was deadwieght and inactive, I helped kill Azure-kite, the only known active wolf. and Azure was active the entire game lol. There's a difference between Azures death, and Exilements planned one BY azure.
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Feb 1, 2014 12:43 AM #1150638
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When Gyohdon says that the wolves can plant evidence, does this mean at the scene of the crime, or does this mean in their own posts? When I asked Gyohdon to put a link to the clues in the first post he refused, saying that it was up to us to judge what is or isn't a clue. That implies that there are clues in posts other than Gyohdon's. Perhaps he gives them something which they have to say at some point during the day.


Wut?

What I meant was, what you guys see as clues, such as the mentioning of salt, or the repeated use of religious language, stuff like that, might be clues or they might not be. THAT is up to you to decide and I'm not linking it in my first post.

However, the only clues coming from me will be in the daily event updates. Wolves can leave clues in their own posts if they like but that's up to them.
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Feb 1, 2014 12:46 AM #1150640
Ah, ok. I think we were talking past each other. In that case, ignore me.

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Raptor has fewer posts than Sweeto.


My bad. Thought he was already dead for some reason.
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Feb 1, 2014 12:47 AM #1150642
WHOA WHOA WHOA, so you;re telling us wolves cant plant evidence in YOUR posts? Just write bullshit in the thread?
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Feb 1, 2014 12:49 AM #1150644
I have to go (likely until tomorrow). Don't murder anyone without a good reason.
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Feb 1, 2014 12:49 AM #1150646
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WHOA WHOA WHOA, so you;re telling us wolves cant plant evidence in YOUR posts?


Yes. That's what I've meant from the start
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Feb 1, 2014 12:51 AM #1150647
Oh, the other thing I meant to point out was that Gyohdon talked about "the last wolf" in the post after Jutsu's kamikaze. There's probably only one left.
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Feb 1, 2014 12:52 AM #1150648
Good catch, that puts my mind at ease...a bit.
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Feb 1, 2014 1:20 AM #1150653
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(supersmashbro has been hanged. _Ai_ has been eaten by the wolves)
When the group came together for dinner in the canteen, they saw something new. The piano from the hallway in the mansion, had been placed in the middle of the dining area. What was that doing here? ForgottenUser stepped towards it and lifted the top. He turned to the others and said, "There's something in here. I need a hand". Sacred stepped forward and they both lifted something big, wrapped in white sheets, out of the piano. As it laid on the floor, ForgottenUser began unwrapping the sheets and saw the _Ai_'s dead face staring back at him. "Christ!", Sacred said in shock, as he stepped back. Ghombeat walked over to the body and began unwrapping it further, revealing a note in _Ai_'s hand.
"It says, 'The father and son have fallen'... What does that mean?", he said as he read from the note.

Idk if the white sheet thing could also be a religious kind of thing, but whos not to say it couldnt be a clue, the tiniest details planted by the wolves could be the most important hint of them all for what we know.
also, just letting you guys know that fallen could mean lose power, lose hope, or just literally fell, i doubt that they meant died because its just too obvious.
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