Hi is have just used the elemental empire and watched videos of other top players aka Wyzdom lose to people with hundreds of points less in grades. I can see that the Elemental empire is weak. 4 things need changing

1. All units Should have automatic cure and heal like chaos.
2. Air elemental should have increased firing range.
3. The four starting units earth, water, air and fire need to be made cheaper or stronger.
4. The castle archer upgrade along with the tornado unlock ability for the cyclops is in a building above the fire building make it more obvious every one does not know about that building have missed it.

The makers/developers said that the matches with the elemental empire would be non graded for a while well the matches are graded so he broke that promise if you have any other things you want to point plz say so.

P.S I have no where to write this and I realise that this is the chaos forum thank you for your understanding.

Elementals are fine. They don't need buffs lmao.

WyzDM loses to elementals.
Conclusion: Elementals are weak. Need buff.

Tbh elems needs nerfs more than buffs.

done with life go to that chat thread please and read my rant.
here's the link
http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?50811-The-SE-Chat-Thread&p=1166788#post1166788

With the new changes I can say that Elementals in op The Tretetrecherer or so it is called can be massed and upgraded gives a combination that wins every time made from the two cheapest and quickest to train units earth+water= Treetrecherer

www.stickempires.com/play?replay=replay4865051&version=1.95

Elementals are already Op enough, please don't buff them.

Yes, they may be and expensive. But they pack a HUGE punch. There are so many Elemental units that are great for combat, and there is even one for defense! Personally, I love the Elemental Empire, CrazyJay did a good job!!:D
Check out the Elemental Empire Thread in the Order empire Forum.

Elementals are OP. End of thread. Get conclusion over a long while in the top-tier scene, then present things like this.

everything about elementals are fine now. elemental is not op at all
I got the way to beat elemental and is not difficult

no tankers , no armor, and low health for most units
These are the weaknesses

fast flying units, cheap trees and nice spell
These are the strength points

so no nerf or buff is needed. just fix those glitches would be enough

Yeah but this is chaos, which is weak early game. Crawlers have no health, bombers are one use. Elementals only need earth and water, some mana, and then boom! Victory.

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Yeah but this is chaos, which is weak early game. Crawlers have no health, bombers are one use. Elementals only need earth and water, some mana, and then boom! Victory.

agreed with Ai, but well...chaos was always weak at the beginning...but now EvC in short maps...no way O_O
something like tree start or air unit start...chaos has no chance to counter elementals in EvC short maps.

you can ask Tai and he would tell you how to beat elementals with chaos
he raped my elementals with his chaos

well, but I admit that using chaos to counter order is more difficult than using element to counter order
that is not impossible, just difficult in short maps

and is quite easy in long map or mid maps

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well, I agree with SGC that EvC in short map, it is damn difficult to counter element with chaos . so maybe something need to be done on that

but in late game, chaos can completely pwn element
eclipsors and bombers can beat air and trees, jugger can beat that blue guy, and also have giants as tankers . V is vulnerable when controlling

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everything about elementals are fine now. elemental is not op at all
I got the way to beat elemental and is not difficult

no tankers , no armor, and low health for most units
These are the weaknesses

fast flying units, cheap trees and nice spell
These are the strength points

so no nerf or buff is needed. just fix those glitches would be enough

I think the magma unit has a lot of health, and the tree also. Elementals do INSANE damage, and some units have armor (I forgot). Even through they have low health, they have high health in early game (most have 2 bars while archers have 1). The V can also control a unit such as a giant to be a tanker.

Its not weak at all, obviously using a new units strats game methods and micro, against an experienced order/chaos user its terrible?

Edit, with my games agianst CC2 (CaptainCorps) I realized that elementals dont have much statue damaging power, it took him like 4 minutes to destroy my defenseless statue other then the CA2? Im not sure because there might of been other abilities or units he didnt use that had good power agiasnt the statue.

The hurricane unit thingy can like 6hko a statue with its hurricane spell.