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Hewitt

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Dec 5, 2014 5:57 AM #1278056
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Wow. After reading the posts of Hewitt and Captain, I now kinda like have the urge to animate an RHG battle by making an animation that catches the crowds attention which is by making an animation by knowing the enemy's weakness and standpoints. It kinda shows of that it would be interesting to watch if both RHG's fight with a creative manner as what Hewitt said. Thanks guys for giving this kind of hint to me. Now i'm having ideas on how to make my un-original character become "original". But it would require such a very good animating experience to animate that kind of creativity. But thanks for the tips, it will help me a lot in the future. Even if it's not for me. ^_^.


If you think about it, there isn't really a point to 'winning' battles. Honestly, what does it give you in the longrun? I'm not saying winning is not important, but when you work on your animation with the sole intent of winning then you're not doing it right. Stop me if you've felt like this before: You look at someone's RHG profile and the first thing you do is read its weaknesses and powers and think about how you're going to beat that while thinking of challenging them. Sure, the actual anim might not be what you initially projected, but the moment you decided to aim towards "Beating the guy", you've already lost the crowd with your simple-minded "I stab him after I disarm him and he ded" anim.

Whereas. If you decided to step back and be creative about the capabilities of you and your opponent, you can actually drum up an enjoyable scenario for both you and your voters. In that sense, your win would feel more legitimate because it was one made out of love, not because it was done better. Sure you might legitimately lose the battle itself, but weeks from now your anim will be the talk of the town. They'll always remember it for being that anim where "you hijacked a bus and drove it into his helicopter while fending off his clones with your sword".

Note that I realize that most will often vote based on anim quality, but you have to also realize that people also admire effort put into a work and more often than not effort and quality cross over in the same space. So in the end, you just have to ask yourself whats more satisfying: Beating the other guy or Entertaining the audience with your creative mind.

A case in point example is FFLFLL vs Yoyo. Watch both anims and tell me Yoyo's wasn't more enjoyable for its clever cues, lines, and stops. Even the technically superior Terkoiz anim stood no chance against drawing a crowd for humor and entertainment.

Yes, I am fully aware that that fight didn't count and the yoyo one was more of a tribute. Don't harp on me on the technicalities of the obvious.

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How interesting ! I'll take that concept and think about it, Hewitt. Since my character is now a "mutant version of Mr. Pix" it'll be easy to introduce this head-flail system. Kinda reminds me Orochimaru lol.


I honestly thought you wouldn't have given a rat's ass about my idea and call it stupid. I hope that's sincerity in your words because if it is, I might actually start watching battles again around here.
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Dec 5, 2014 12:22 PM #1278119
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I honestly thought you wouldn't have given a rat's ass about my idea and call it stupid. I hope that's sincerity in your words because if it is, I might actually start watching battles again around here.


About bloody time the community became more respectful. I actually thought it was pretty interesting, myself. At the very least, I don't remember anyone doing that before.

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Changed my mind, i decided not to quit it so easily(eventhough im super lazy)

I just need to finish naberius vs ghost first


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RE-ADDING TO HITLIST! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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Dec 5, 2014 1:34 PM #1278129
Wow, I give a plus 10 to Hewitt and Captain for the tips... Could be helpful for future battles..

Oh and nice new forms Vazar! I hope you improve more!
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Dec 5, 2014 2:00 PM #1278145
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Whereas. If you decided to step back and be creative about the capabilities of you and your opponent, you can actually drum up an enjoyable scenario for both you and your voters. In that sense, your win would feel more legitimate because it was one made out of love, not because it was done better. Sure you might legitimately lose the battle itself, but weeks from now your anim will be the talk of the town. They'll always remember it for being that anim where "you hijacked a bus and drove it into his helicopter while fending off his clones with your sword".


This is the idea that I wanted to post but can't cause it's really hard for me to find the right words. Thanks for the very kind words, and yes. I'm not focused on winning a battle but instead. I'm much more focused on making creativity on an animation that will satisfy both me and other people. Sure I won't win but for me, if I put a lot of effort in creativity in my animation. Doesn't care whether I win or lose. What matters is enjoying the animation you have done.
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Dec 5, 2014 2:08 PM #1278147
Before, people care morely about how the enemy could animate their RHG's powers and weaknesses and most of all, win the battle..
But with those tips in mind, it will make you think more than winning, winning the interest of the audience, and more importantly, inspiring them to do so aswell and work hard..when doing this, it'll also help you take loss not too harshly.. Not to sound like I'm higher than them but, I believe this can be of atleast a small help to the new people
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Dec 5, 2014 2:29 PM #1278160
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Whereas. If you decided to step back and be creative about the capabilities of you and your opponent, you can actually drum up an enjoyable scenario for both you and your voters. In that sense, your win would feel more legitimate because it was one made out of love, not because it was done better. Sure you might legitimately lose the battle itself, but weeks from now your anim will be the talk of the town. They'll always remember it for being that anim where "you hijacked a bus and drove it into his helicopter while fending off his clones with your sword".


I couldn't agree more. If you look at Chuck vs FLLFFL, their battle eventually turned into an alliance to stop bank robbers and they decided to end the battle and be friends, and then Chuck took him out with a sucker punch. Gawd I loved that one! I've not seen any other battle where the opponents team up to do that. It was an extremely entertaining and well done animation by Endo. There have been other occasions where entertainment has taken a win over aesthetics. Check out Greg vs Hoody and Quickfeet vs Spectre
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Dec 5, 2014 2:35 PM #1278166
@ Hewitt Of course I do ! I will do a demo of that concept. I wanna see if I animate it well and I wanna see if I fully understood what you wanted to say xD

I'm gonna do it and post it soon on this page.
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Dec 5, 2014 9:13 PM #1278280
Interesting discussion here. Nice to see your enthusiasm Vazar, I look forward to seeing you improve.
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Dec 10, 2014 9:01 AM #1280465
Thank you Kursura ! I love your works, glad to see that you like mine. :D

My RHG against Agilix is actually quiet good in my opinion. Since he is an armored titan, I have to work on highly resistant surfaces -his armor- and heavy weapons. That's interesting and I'm learning it fast. I hope you'll all like it when it comes out :3

EDIT for Hewitt : I'm using the head-flail concept in this animation. I don't really master it right now but it's gonna be fine I guess. :3
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Dec 10, 2014 9:15 AM #1280468
Aww sweet you're taking on Agilix :D

It's awesome that you're just jumping into these battles. A lot of the new RHGs (Well actually just about 80% of all of the RHGs) stay dormant and the animators are busy with other projects. Keep doing it, keep up the enthusiam, keep battling, it will only attract more challengers and you'll only keep improving bro. Keep the culture of RHG battles alive and you'll have my eternal gratitude for contributing to this system.

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My RHG against Agilix is actually quiet good in my opinion. Since he is an armored titan, I have to work on highly resistant surfaces -his armor- and heavy weapons.


Ahem! *cough*

Acid! and Metal reactions! *cough* *cough*

WUUUUUUUT?!?!? I didn't say that? :O I didn't give him tips against the opponent! PSSSHHHT!





You know what to do ;)
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Dec 10, 2014 9:26 AM #1280469
I will have to use a trick to make the acid interesting. In the first part of my animation, the metal of the armor is too resistant to be pierced by the acid. But well, Vazar can make his body mutate, can create poisons and viruses by coughing so... Maybe this armor won't be so resistant at the end of the day. :3
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Dec 13, 2014 9:34 PM #1281922
Very nice avatar. i didnt think the monster would be so festive. Is your character the new grinch or something?
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Dec 13, 2014 9:37 PM #1281924
Hahahaha thank you !

Jazzon did this for me yesterday. It was so good I had to put it as an avatar. :3
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Dec 13, 2014 9:38 PM #1281925
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Hahahaha thank you !

Jazzon did this for me yesterday. It was so good I had to put it as an avatar. :3


I'm glad I could help. We're a crew now. :)
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Dec 14, 2014 5:05 AM #1282069
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I will have to use a trick to make the acid interesting. In the first part of my animation, the metal of the armor is too resistant to be pierced by the acid. But well, Vazar can make his body mutate, can create poisons and viruses by coughing so... Maybe this armor won't be so resistant at the end of the day. :3


Oh adaptive abilities! Of course, given your gladiator, that would make perfect sense. Start the fight barely melting the paint off, then finish by whipping up a deadly new concoction that burns clean through and completely disintegrates 'em.

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Very nice avatar. i didnt think the monster would be so festive.


That's got to be the smexiest smile I have ever seen Vazar wear. Gonna be one helluva merry Christmas this year!
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