i was actually trying to predict the future there.

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Speaking of people I regard with zero respect.

How's it going, fuck face?

That's pretty rude, but it's not like you can get any lower than you already are :( Well actually you could, but that would depend on how much work someone wants to do.
I don't get why you're pulling your piss party over here with me lol

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hay
im fucken chillin brehs

-video-

I can tell lol. How's life been outside of StickFigure forums?

second year of uni is just starting to kick in... first year i uh... didn't concentrate enough on my studies, i'll say that much. getting my chit together is a continuous process, but it's all good. roommate's cool, my outfits are on point, got some decent study groups, and japanese class is fun :)

and yeah, it wouldn't be a proper visit to dinkpage without getting into an awful clusterfuck of an argument.

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That's pretty rude, but it's not like you can get any lower than you already are :( Well actually you could, but that would depend on how much work someone wants to do.
I don't get why you're pulling your piss party over here with me lol

Right because I'm sure you had no motivation behind passive aggressively dropping a caddie remark, none at all.

You only wanted a civilized conversation, that's it?

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and yeah, it wouldn't be a proper visit to dinkpage without getting into an awful clusterfuck of an argument.

Then don't talk about shit you don't know about, duh.

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Yeah you should grab a popcorn for this one.

Arch is pretty much the only person that could've posted to make me forget about you right now.

This dude is on some next level shit.

How correct am I in thinking...

Index: states that the bible can't be used to create a society with good morals and nothing more

Jutsu: doesn't disagree, but thinks indexs sources practiced the same hypocrisy that religious people use to say the bible suits their needs, so it's in bad taste

Neither side was taking about or responding to the opposing side's main point for the duration of that argument, so it's easy to see it didn't get settled with that in mind

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How correct am I in thinking...

Index: states that the bible can't be used to create a society with good morals and nothing more

Jutsu: doesn't disagree, but thinks indexs sources practiced the same hypocrisy that religious people use to say the bible suits their needs, so it's in bad taste

Neither side was taking about or responding to the opposing side's main point for the duration of that argument, so it's easy to see it didn't get settled with that in mind

Thanks to you and Raptor for attempting to read the content genuinely.

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Then don't talk about shit you don't know about, duh.

kay... a main theme was me constantly telling you i didn't want to talk about theology (for a variety of reasons that didn't include my ability)

i would prefer not to get dragged back into an obviously pointless exchange though.

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How correct am I in thinking...

Index: states that the bible can't be used to create a society with good morals and nothing more

Jutsu: doesn't disagree, but thinks indexs sources practiced the same hypocrisy that religious people use to say the bible suits their needs, so it's in bad taste

Neither side was taking about or responding to the opposing side's main point for the duration of that argument, so it's easy to see it didn't get settled with that in mind

pretty much, except after that i replied by saying both the video and i could make the same conclusion regardless of the issues he had. but the tug of war continued...

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second year of uni is just starting to kick in... first year i uh... didn't concentrate enough on my studies, i'll say that much. getting my chit together is a continuous process, but it's all good. roommate's cool, my outfits are on point, got some decent study groups, and japanese class is fun :)

and yeah, it wouldn't be a proper visit to dinkpage without getting into an awful clusterfuck of an argument.

You planning on going to Japan? I wish my MOS could get stationed there. If it could I'd probably sign up for four more years but I'm not about to gamble with a reclass and TS clearance at the moot chance to get fucking Japan. Fuck that lol. College was about the same for me, I couldn't get too into it because I got fucked into going to community college, so that killed all of my motivation to do anything other than play WoW.

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Right because I'm sure you had no motivation behind passive aggressively dropping a caddie remark, none at all.

You only wanted a civilized conversation, that's it?

"Classic Jutsu" is passive aggressive or even remotely aggressive? I was more referring to your ability to post walls of text and 'debate' things. I didn't read any posts except for the last few and you guys are both slinging as much shit lol.



Kinda unrelated: I actually enjoy going to church sometimes because the culture and atmosphere actually isn't that bad. I mean fuck the religion really, but seeing a lot of people come together with the mindset of taking care of their small society is pretty rad. Of course I can't say the same for all churches so it doesn't prove nor disprove any side of the argument. Just a neat observation.

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kay... a main theme was me constantly telling you i didn't want to talk about theology (for a variety of reasons that didn't include my ability)

You don't see the disconnect of wanting to discuss morals in the bible, but not getting into theology?

Theology: The study of the nature of God and religious belief.

You sorta can't have one without the other man.

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"Classic Jutsu" is passive aggressive or even remotely aggressive? I was more referring to your ability to post walls of text and 'debate' things. I didn't read any posts except for the last few and you guys are both slinging as much shit lol.

Sorry for assuming that you said it with negative caveats, but are you surprised when you consider how all of our recent conversations go.

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You planning on going to Japan? I wish my MOS could get stationed there. If it could I'd probably sign up for four more years but I'm not about to gamble with a reclass and TS clearance at the moot chance to get fucking Japan. Fuck that lol. College was about the same for me, I couldn't get too into it because I got fucked into going to community college, so that killed all of my motivation to do anything other than play WoW.

i'm formulating plans for going next summer, but even if that doesn't work out, i'll definitely go eventually.

my parents and i are forcing myself to do STEM even though my true passion is for the arts, so that's a struggle.

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You don't see the disconnect of wanting to discuss morals in the bible, but not getting into theology?

Theology: The study of the nature of God and religious belief.

You sorta can't have one without the other man.

if you want to continue this argument, you're going to have to (actually) respond to the post where i fleshed this out fully.

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if you want to continue this argument, you're going to have to (actually) respond to the post where i fleshed this out fully.

Oh please.
I'm not gonna sift through more paragraphs of your brain drivel to keep considering your ever moving goal post, Index.

The fact that you want to discuss the bible and think that theology isn't relevant, shows that the argument isn't even worth perpetuating.
Quite simply, I'm never going to get through to you. No matter how much time, patience and research I put in.

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Oh please.
I'm not gonna sift through more paragraphs of your brain drivel to keep considering your ever moving goal post, Index.

The fact that you want to discuss the bible and think that theology isn't relevant, shows that the argument isn't even worth perpetuating.
Quite simply, I'm never going to get through to you. No matter how much time, patience and research I put in.

once again, my issue with your argument AND my own claim were both clearly stated in my original reply. the "goal posts" are completely obvious.

once again, i want to discuss the concept of deriving objective meaning from something you can invoke context upon and interpret several different ways, not analyse the details of scripture. (actually, i don't really want to discuss anything anymore, if i'm being perfectly honest.)

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once again, my issue with your argument AND my own claim were both clearly stated in my original reply. the "goal posts" are completely obvious.

once again, i want to discuss the concept of deriving objective meaning from something you can invoke context upon and interpret several different ways, not analyse the details of scripture. (actually, i don't really want to discuss anything anymore, if i'm being perfectly honest.)

But you just told me to address the last post you made last night, not the second post. Even you're losing track of what you're saying at this point. I bring up basic flaws in your logic and you just point at something else. The fact is theology has everything to do with the Bible, theology is prolific in Bible discussion.

This is gonna blow your mind. I actually believe organized religion definitely sets a bad standard for objective morality.
I never disagreed that the bible isn't the best source for objective morality.
I disagree with the incorrect and illogical basis your entire argument is centered upon, not the conclusion. But here you are so desperately trying to prove something to me, a conclusion I had already reached as a kid pretty much.

I wanted to talk about the deep material that was presented, not this amateur hour crap that I've already dealt with over and over.

You can't say "this is in the bible, the bible is the word of god, therfor this is the word of god" as a way to jump to the conclusion that god wants people stoned to death. There are many more simple ways to realize that religion doesn't always yield great results morally.
Mostly, having two eyes in your head.