Quote from FirewallI thought that was common knowledge to even the lowliest of life forms on SP.
I've heard this a ton recently. Like, either people are just dumber than we give them credit, or Dvor has seriously screwed up his self-image.
Quote from Asherowasnt lucas b tier in both iterations of smash?
i used to main him in smash 4, so my thoughts might be biased
I was talking about Lloyd, not Lucas. Lloyd apparently is a playable char in the Flash iterations of Super Smash, but is merely a variant of Mii Swordfighters in the other versions of Smash.
Given I don't have a gaming console of my own, Super Smash Flash is my main gig. In that, Lloyd is incredibly OP. He is quite slow on the ground, and also has poor recovery except for one move, which makes him extremely hard to play. His sheer power and versatility, though, is insane. His attacks are transcendent typically, and he has two moves that are unstoppable period and will stop anything and everything else in their range. Additionally, his powerful attacks can be chained together for 200%+ damage streaks in a matter of a few seconds if you time things right.
Additionally, his air game is nuts for a char that only has 3 jumps and is rather slow. In fact, his air-game is better than that of MK, which says a ton. His air-based moves are actually the foundation of successful play for him, because of their sheer variety and power.
If you check out the SSF and SSF2 tier lists, you'll see him as either 1st or 3rd in the tiers (the tiers max at S class, which is where he is placed).