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Dec 27, 2016 10:40 PM #1471642
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Dec 28, 2016 4:10 AM #1471658
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Sure, money is easier to spend in most cases. In my personal opinion gold/silver can be more appealing as a gift than just cash. Kind of what my post was about... On that subject, though, hyperinflation does not inflate prices of cash and gold/silver at the same rate. This is a very simple part of it's definition. Precisely speaking, it's local currency that is affected severely, not economic items. Although economic items are affected, but at a very different rate.

-_- I understand that was probably a joke, but jeebus man.


Isn't it funny how I never said hyperinflation inflates the prices of precious metals as much as it inflates the "prices of cash"?

Also, what do you mean "economic items"? Inflation is the decrease of the purchasing power of money, causing an increase in the value of goods. If money devalues, then you pay more than what you used to for goods, which I assume is what you mean by "economic items." If local currency is affected, then so too would goods and services.

The "price of cash" only means anything when we talk about the foreign exchange market (which is irrelevant to hyperinflation), and even then an economy experiencing hyperinflation will not have its currency increase in price, but rather have the value of their currency severely decrease. The value of precious metals is determined by supply and demand in the market so hyperinflation might not affect it (and historically keeps up/increases more than the inflation rate during hyperinflation), but things like food, clothes, and all that shit are exactly what's being affected.


-_- I understand you're probably retarded, but jeebus man.
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Dec 28, 2016 4:31 AM #1471660
The new Lethal Weapon show is pretty good.

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Dec 28, 2016 4:49 AM #1471661
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Isn't it funny how I never said hyperinflation inflates the prices of precious metals as much as it inflates the "prices of cash"?

Also, what do you mean "economic items"? Inflation is the decrease of the purchasing power of money, causing an increase in the value of goods. If money devalues, then you pay more than what you used to for goods, which I assume is what you mean by "economic items." If local currency is affected, then so too would goods and services.

The "price of cash" only means anything when we talk about the foreign exchange market (which is irrelevant to hyperinflation), and even then an economy experiencing hyperinflation will not have its currency increase in price, but rather have the value of their currency severely decrease. The value of precious metals is determined by supply and demand in the market so hyperinflation might not affect it (and historically keeps up/increases more than the inflation rate during hyperinflation), but things like food, clothes, and all that shit are exactly what's being affected.


-_- I understand you're probably retarded, but jeebus man.


Woah, calm down m8. Not trying to insult ya. My original post on this was talking about how I personally would prefer gold/silver coins as a present over cash, not on how it was supposedly better to buy them during hyperinflation.

I guess, if you really wana talk about it, here's some of the terms you're looking for. Bear with me here, I'd rather not get into a flame war over this subject. Same on your side, if you don't mind.
Economic items are literally valued goods that can be sold in the world. An apple is literally an economic item, or more commonly called an economic good, like you said.

Lets say you're hypothetically buying someone a present and the economy is on the verge of crashing into hyperinflation. If you had to choose between giving them $50 in cash, or $50 in silver coins, I would say that the coins would be a better choice. Lets say, after the coins are given, hyperinflation occurs. Now the local currency is worth close to nothing. However, while the local currency has pretty much lost nearly all of it's value, items with a worldwide demand such as gold and silver are more safe investments. While these items can be moved from place to place, the local currency of your country is now practically worthless everywhere.

Not trying to be rude here, but the foreign exchange market often has everything to do with hyperinflation, and is very often what indirectly (or even directly) helps it occur. The economy of each nation within our world is to various extents (depending on where you live) related to global trade. Trade between places is what defines most of the products we have and use today. While this is obvious to an extent, crashes in certain trade goods, for example, oil, can affect the economy of certain areas that depend on the trade of such items. Countries that rely on oil trade for a good deal of their economy are massively affected if places they sell it or buy it from stop doing so.

Look, I understand that calling your post a joke probably came off as rude, and it was my fault for doing that, but this isn't anything to insult each other over.
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Dec 28, 2016 9:13 AM #1471669
Oh gosh what have I started...
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Dec 28, 2016 2:12 PM #1471675
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Woah, calm down m8. Not trying to insult ya. My original post on this was talking about how I personally would prefer gold/silver coins as a present over cash, not on how it was supposedly better to buy them during hyperinflation.


Don't pretend that the post I replied to was still about Christmas presents because you literally went on to say "On that subject, though..." and then moved on by arguing about something I never even said. You were the one who wanted to change the topic to hyperinflation and the value of precious metals.

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I guess, if you really wana talk about it, here's some of the terms you're looking for. Bear with me here, I'd rather not get into a flame war over this subject. Same on your side, if you don't mind.
Economic items are literally valued goods that can be sold in the world. An apple is literally an economic item, or more commonly called an economic good, like you said.


You were saying "hyperinflation does not inflate prices of cash and gold/silver at the same rate" which makes no sense because hyperinflation DOES NOT INFLATE THE PRICE OF CASH AT ALL. What inflates is the prices of commodities. You said "it's local currency that's affected severely, not economic items." Do you mean that hyperinflation affects the value of money and not the economic item itself? Because of course hyperinflation does not at all affect, like, an apple. I was confused because I thought you meant that hyperinflation does not affect the VALUE of the apple, which is the stance I was arguing against because I didn't think you took me as an idiot. As a matter of fact, I wasn't even saying anything about that.

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Lets say you're hypothetically buying someone a present and the economy is on the verge of crashing into hyperinflation. If you had to choose between giving them $50 in cash, or $50 in silver coins, I would say that the coins would be a better choice. Lets say, after the coins are given, hyperinflation occurs. Now the local currency is worth close to nothing. However, while the local currency has pretty much lost nearly all of it's value, items with a worldwide demand such as gold and silver are more safe investments. While these items can be moved from place to place, the local currency of your country is now practically worthless everywhere.


I know the effects of hyperinflation to currencies, don't be condescending. If wherever you are is on the verge of hyperinflation, then yes, the coins are better. If it's not on the verge of hyperinflation, then choosing the coins means you'll have to put effort to sell it to a pawnshop who will buy it at a discount because they will have to sell for a profit. There's also the risk that it will lose value if you hold on to it too long.

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Not trying to be rude here, but the foreign exchange market often has everything to do with hyperinflation, and is very often what indirectly (or even directly) helps it occur. The economy of each nation within our world is to various extents (depending on where you live) related to global trade. Trade between places is what defines most of the products we have and use today. While this is obvious to an extent, crashes in certain trade goods, for example, oil, can affect the economy of certain areas that depend on the trade of such items. Countries that rely on oil trade for a good deal of their economy are massively affected if places they sell it or buy it from stop doing so.


I never said there was no co-dependence between countries in the world market, I never said anything against what you were saying about global trade. I was saying that foreign exchange very often does not cause hyperinflation, because hyperinflation has historically mostly been caused by an over issuance of money by the government. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation#Causes

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Look, I understand that calling your post a joke probably came off as rude, and it was my fault for doing that, but this isn't anything to insult each other over.


My post really was a joke, but what pissed me off is you acting like I said anything contrary to what you were saying in the first place. Go look back at my post and find the part about me saying hyperinflation inflates prices of cash and gold/silver at the same rate. You will notice that I said no such thing. You'll also notice that much of things you're saying now were things I never disagreed with.
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Dec 28, 2016 11:23 PM #1471691
Wait, so are you actually telling me that you busted a mental fuse over an obvious typo in a sentence that you clearly understood the meaning of? Getting angry over opinionated responses to posts that are trying to be relaxed and responsive is ridiculous. We're supposed to be having a calm, constructed set of conversations about Christmas. Christmas! Time of jolly good cheer and, I don't know, not shit-posting? My first post on this was entirely about Christmas presents. If you still don't get that, go back and read it again. I never claimed or told you that you specifically said anything relating to how hyperinflation relates to cash or buying coins in that post. I was literally just stating those things as a reference towards what I was pointing out. What you're saying is right when it comes to the facts you pull from good internet sources, and it's cool to do that for reference. Don't use it as an excuse to call people "retards."

How about we calm down and stop fueling this nasty argument.
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Dec 29, 2016 12:01 AM #1471693
I'm pretty sure Smile is as calm as ever haha.
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Dec 29, 2016 3:42 AM #1471711
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How about we calm down and stop fueling this nasty argument.

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Dec 29, 2016 3:48 AM #1471716
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Dec 29, 2016 11:00 AM #1471737
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Woah, calm down m8. Not trying to insult ya.

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-_- I understand that was probably a joke, but jeebus man.


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Dec 29, 2016 2:13 PM #1471747
hi guys , hi everybody , hi nish

how's my new profile picture lookin?
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Dec 29, 2016 2:54 PM #1471748
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hi guys , hi everybody , hi nish

how's my new profile picture lookin?


Not bad I guess.
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Dec 29, 2016 6:57 PM #1471760
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hi guys , hi everybody , hi nish

how's my new profile picture lookin?


It looks like Mona Lisa, only 10x better.
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Dec 29, 2016 7:34 PM #1471765
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It looks like Mona Lisa, only 10x better.

What are you talking about? Islamified Mona Lisa looks GOOD to you?

tsk tsk, such bad taste.
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