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Aug 13, 2012 10:54 PM #717629
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The UK has a higher percentage of fat people. America is just bigger so we have MORE of them.

As for the medals, I agree with Zed, the per-capita is more important because America is big, it's more likely to bread athletes than a country kind of small like GB.

Yeaaaaaah

I disagree, it's not a fair contest at all.
Observe exhibit A

Great Britain Medals:65 People: 62,262,000 People per medal: 957,876
United States Medals:104 People: 313,382,000 People per medal: 3,013,288
Grenada Medals:1 People: 110,821 People per medal: 110,821

As you can see, Grenada taking first place in medals per capita simply because it has an extremely low population. Great Britain is likely to win because it has vastly less people than the USA. How is that intelligent competition? It's not.

If what you say about higher chance of breeding good athletes is true then by that logic India and China the two countries with higher population "A LOT MORE" would be the superior forces? No, that is simply wrong. India got 36'th place with only 6 medals. So I am calling you out on this, it's ridiculous.

As the tiny country of Grenada wins by default because of low population, despite literally having less than 1 percent of our medals.
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Aug 13, 2012 11:38 PM #717650
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Of course.

Side note: did you do as well as you thought you would? China looked like they came embarrassingly close. You could write off Beijing as home-crowd support, but they were ahead most of the way this year too.


Just like you argued with Great Britain being less populous than the America, therefore resulting in breeding less stellar athletes, China has around 4.5x the population of the USA. America having around 5x the population of Great Britain. We beat China.
Great Britain did not beat us.

Edit: Damn Jutsu you said pretty much the exact same thing. I hadn't read your post yet. Anyway Zed your wrong.
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Aug 13, 2012 11:54 PM #717661
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Just like you argued with Great Britain being less populous than the America, therefore resulting in breeding less stellar athletes, China has around 4.5x the population of the USA. America having around 5x the population of Great Britain. We beat China.
Great Britain did not beat us.

Edit: Damn Jutsu you said pretty much the exact same thing. I hadn't read your post yet. Anyway Zed your wrong.

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Aug 14, 2012 12:52 AM #717679
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Yeaaaaaah

I disagree...

None of that post after this was relevant because he was speaking of *likelihood*, not what actually happens. Not all good athletes automatically join the Olympics, but that doesn't mean that they do not exist.
It is also much more of an achievement relatively for Grenada to win a medal than it is for the U.S. to, because it happens much less often there.
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Aug 14, 2012 12:59 AM #717685
Um...

USA! USA! USA! USA!
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Aug 14, 2012 1:07 AM #717687
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I'm just pointing out that not all Americans are huge fatasses, just like 1 in every 3.


that's terrifying, i can't even comprehend being surrounded by that many fat people. here you're unlikely to see an obese person unless you're in a crowd of 20+ people
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Aug 14, 2012 1:17 AM #717690
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that's terrifying, i can't even comprehend being surrounded by that many fat people. here you're unlikely to see an obese person unless you're in a crowd of 20+ people


It is pretty horrifying going to the river for a swim haha.

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None of that post after this was relevant because he was speaking of *likelihood*, not what actually happens. Not all good athletes automatically join the Olympics, but that doesn't mean that they do not exist.
It is also much more of an achievement relatively for Grenada to win a medal than it is for the U.S. to, because it happens much less often there.

Yawnnnn, I forgot to say INB4 fusion arbitrarily dislikes my post. I'll be sure to do that next time.
Also, I am not trying to take from anyone's Olympic victory, I'm saying America is overall the most winning team at the Olympics and to dispute it with a system that's that broken is ridiculous.
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Aug 14, 2012 5:52 AM #717775
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Can please someone explain to me what Pragmatism is and examples of what a Pragmatic person does? I thought I knew what it meant but apparently, I've been misusing it so I just want to set it straight.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3Apragmatism
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Aug 14, 2012 6:46 AM #717779
that's just silly. it would take 5 seconds to find out for yourself, but you prefer to type half a paragraph asking for help and then wait half an hour for a response on a forum?
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Aug 14, 2012 7:26 AM #717789
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Anyway Zed your wrong.


When did I state an incorrect fact? The only thing I said directly is that we had more medals per capita, which is indisputable.

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Yeaaaaaah

I disagree, it's not a fair contest at all.
Observe exhibit A

Great Britain Medals:65 People: 62,262,000 People per medal: 957,876
United States Medals:104 People: 313,382,000 People per medal: 3,013,288
Grenada Medals:1 People: 110,821 People per medal: 110,821

As you can see, Grenada taking first place in medals per capita simply because it has an extremely low population. Great Britain is likely to win because it has vastly less people than the USA. How is that intelligent competition? It's not.

If what you say about higher chance of breeding good athletes is true then by that logic India and China the two countries with higher population "A LOT MORE" would be the superior forces? No, that is simply wrong. India got 36'th place with only 6 medals. So I am calling you out on this, it's ridiculous.

As the tiny country of Grenada wins by default because of low population, despite literally having less than 1 percent of our medals.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_(graphical) There are 79 countries with populations below a million. If you bundle them together then their per capita medals would be below ours. With that many people in small countries, you expect at least one of them to win a medal, and whichever one it was would shoot their country to the top of the per capita rankings because they can abandon the populations of countries who won nothing. For comparison, imagine the US medal winners had all been from three states. You'd be justified in saying those states were athletically spectacular but the other 47 states would drag you down in the per capita rankings.

The sensible thing to do is only look at countries which you would have predicted would win medals. That eliminates the statistical glitches.

Jamaica thrashed us all.

As for India and China, yes, they did pretty shit. You'd expect them to - they don't really have the per capita GDP to train athletes like GB and the US.

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The UK has a higher percentage of fat people. America is just bigger so we have MORE of them.


No. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity
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Aug 14, 2012 12:00 PM #717852
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The only thing I said directly is that we had more medals per capita, which is indisputable.


I think comparing Britain to America as a whole is a bad idea. Great Britain is, what, a little over half the size of California?

There were 3 winners from Arizona, about 1 medal per 2 million people. California athletes won a TON of medals, something like one per 1 million people, even though it's the most populous state in the country.

You could compare the US to Europe as a whole, but comparing the entire US to European nations that are smaller than individual states doesn't make much sense.
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Aug 14, 2012 12:16 PM #717859
careful guys, this kind of talk brings out the inner patriot in a lot of peop-

FUCK YOU, WAIT 'TILL THE WINTER OLYMPICS CANADA WILL FUCKING OWN ALL OF YOU
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Aug 14, 2012 2:37 PM #717922
As a Ugandan I am proud of our medal.
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Aug 14, 2012 2:38 PM #717925
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YdJnutYtyE#t=02m30s

This shit is heavy, man. :(
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Aug 14, 2012 3:27 PM #717952
Hahaha oh my god, the kittens in the sack, that is so fucking dark for a cartoon.
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