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Mar 16, 2013 4:55 AM #916394
Have you ever tried to pronounce Australia the way Japanese people pronounce it. You sound like a fucking idiot.

It's not fair when 90% of your class is either Korean or Chinese and all they have to say is Chūgoku-jin or Kankoku-jin. I get Ōsutoraria-jin.
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Mar 16, 2013 5:08 AM #916405
So whatever happened to Hyperion. I'm have been subscribed to his youtube channel for quite a while and he hasn't posted anything
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Mar 16, 2013 6:31 AM #916459
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So whatever happened to Hyperion. I'm have been subscribed to his youtube channel for quite a while and he hasn't posted anything


Here, let me check my multiple satellite HD cameras and see what he's doing.

HOW DAFUQ WOULD I KNOW?! O.O
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Mar 16, 2013 7:57 AM #916502
FUUUUUUCK!!!! I HATE APA REFERENCING!!!
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Mar 16, 2013 8:02 AM #916507
Referencing can fuck right off.

At my university we have to use Chicago referencing style (not sure if that's the same thing or different). Either way I despise it. I simply don't have the time to look up websites and reference them in order to pretend that my whole essay wasn't based off of knowledge from Wikipedia.
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Mar 16, 2013 8:04 AM #916508
I never understood not being able to use wikipedia as a resource. Don't you have to source your information if you edit pages? I suppose it would make things far too easy.
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Mar 16, 2013 8:09 AM #916513
I was talking to one of my professors the other day, and he said he was fairly certain that Wikipedia would eventually be considered a reliable source of knowledge by tertiary institutions. A few changes would have to be made though. Otherwise, yes, most information on Wikipedia is generally accompanied by an endnote pointing to the relevant source.
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Mar 16, 2013 8:19 AM #916519
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FUUUUUUCK!!!! I HATE APA REFERENCING!!!

I have to do that shit for all my criminal Justice classes. I have an annotated bibliography due monday. Fuck APA.
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Mar 16, 2013 9:42 AM #916537
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I never understood not being able to use wikipedia as a resource. Don't you have to source your information if you edit pages? I suppose it would make things far too easy.


whoever decided you can't use wikipedia as a source only saw that "anybody can change what is in articles" but was too dumb/incompetent to realize that "changes need to be referenced and validated"
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Mar 16, 2013 2:31 PM #916748
Wikipedia is not a reliable source. You might not see a problem with citing a wikipedia page that anyone can edit, but there are very real instances where the page itself has no sources and could potentially be entirely bullshit. I've seen many statements that are actually completely wrong, and have no sources to back them up. When I edited them to be correct, a gaggle of white knights flew in and reversed my changes within seconds, despite the information I put down being factually correct. Perhaps it was because I also didn't source, which is reasonable, but it also shows that if enough people believe it to be true then there's nothing stopping them from monitoring a wikipedia page and make the false change over and over again. It's completely reasonable for teachers to not accept wikipedia as a source, especially at a level above high school.

Besides, Wikipedia is still a great tool, because for information it lists that IS factual, you have the sources laid out for you. You can just find the statement you want to use, go to it's source and then read the source article/book/whatever and cite that on your page. It's infinitely more responsible and technically correct despite you used Wikipedia as a vehicle to get to that source.
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Mar 16, 2013 3:50 PM #916792
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia

Why don't you people try to decide for yourself's if Wikipedia is unreliable.^^Maybe that can help

I generally use Wikipedia to find information on many things.And usually for projects, I cross reference with other legitament sites recommended by my teachers.I find Wikipedia usually reliable on most cases and don't see why teachers don't allow for its use.I see people just fucking Google shit and teachers find that acceptable.Either where I live is just filled with fools or if I am just crazy.
Alot of their information is sourced too, I Wikipedia anime all the time, and the information is correct.I really don't why teachers do this.My sister says she used Wikipedia alot for her college essays and gets a good grade on her papers.
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Mar 16, 2013 4:01 PM #916798
"Decide for yourself"
*links wikipedia page*

Quote from Alien
I really don't why teachers do this.


Quote from Jeff
Wikipedia is not a reliable source.


Even the co-founder of Wikipedia Jimmy Wales thinks so:

But something is changing since we last wrote about Wikipedia a year ago. Even project founder Jimmy Wales has been obliged to admit its entries are "a horrific embarrassment". Readability, which wasn't great to begin with, has plummeted. Formerly coherent and reasonably accurate articles in the technical section have gotten worse as they've gotten longer. And most interesting of all, the public is beginning to notice.
What they don't like to talk about is that on Wikipedia, the truth is determined in the end by a physical contest: whoever has the endurance to stay awake at a keyboard and maintain his version of the edits wins.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/24/wikipedia_letters/

I don't think people should cite it, and I don't think people should cite Britannica, either... People shouldn't be citing encyclopedias in the first place. Wikipedia and other encyclopedias should...give good, solid background information to inform your studies for a deeper level.


http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2005-12-13/wikipedia-a-work-in-progress

Then again you're young and probably don't possess and understanding of how academics works. Most people like you are only annoyed by not being able to use Wikipedia because it means you have to do real work instead of half-assing it.
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Mar 16, 2013 5:15 PM #916869
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Then again you're young and probably don't possess and understanding of how academics works. Most people like you are only annoyed by not being able to use Wikipedia because it means you have to do real work instead of half-assing it.


I agree people just want to copy and past nowadays, it's almost...what's the word I'm looking for....
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Mar 16, 2013 5:24 PM #916883
I use Wikipedia to find sources for whatever I need occasionally, but not to find actual information. A lot of universities have data bases you can access anyway, is it really that hard to find one of those? Hell just use a regular encyclopedia and use easy bib to source it. Not too difficult, there are plenty at the library. Lazy shits.
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Mar 16, 2013 6:34 PM #916946
Jeff you're missing the fact that people have something called common sense.

You're not going to wildly believe everything you see on Wikipedia. It doesn't take all that much intelligence to look it up and make sure the information you're reading isn't bullshit. Either way, most non factual information generally gets removed almost instantly. I've seen it happen over and over.
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