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Jul 9, 2013 6:07 AM #1029878
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The third Commandment is to not use The Lord's name in vain. See: Exodus 20:7 (I think)


Well.. The idea is that Zed's name was used in someone's signature as "lord savior"
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Jul 9, 2013 6:07 AM #1029880
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Okay, I really think there's something wrong with your 3rd grade reading comprehension


Okay, I really think there's something wrong with this stupid, pointless post. At least explain yourself.
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Jul 9, 2013 6:15 AM #1029889
hello suicide hotline

i thought you might need someone to talk to, are you okay

you have a real tough job
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Jul 9, 2013 6:27 AM #1029900
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Okay, I really think there's something wrong with this stupid, pointless post. At least explain yourself.


Do I have to explain how you fucked up reading the bible?!
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Jul 9, 2013 7:08 AM #1029918
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i don't particularly enjoy sticking needles in people, but i imagine that actually healing people would have genuine rewards, and therefore is probably going to be a profession i am unlikely to hate. previously i had started studying multimedia systems, but dropped it immediately upon realizing how much i would hate being given mundane and non-challenging jobs.

Something along those lines... I believe each person should only have to work for their own direct survival. That is, if you want food, either produce something useful to trade for it, or grow it yourself. it would be impractical to do away with trade entirely, but everybody working for more money is just stupidity. if people are in dire need, others should help them out of kindness, not expecting anything return.

unfortunately i'm convinced that this kind of ideal society is only plausible if everyone becomes enlightened, or something.

hence why i insist that individuals must start working on themselves before they get too caught up in trying to change the world.

Exactly, so the problem isn't working or money. Its greed, selfishness, and working for a profit. The moment you start working to earn as much money as you can, and believe this will make you happy, and 'plan for tomorrow', your fucked.
If you manage to build a society on love, respect, and kindness, I believe equal exchange with money starts to work. And I think the first step towards this is people choosing jobs that they will enjoy and find fulfilling while also going out and getting what the actually want/need and boycotting everything they've been conditioned to want.

That said, I think the end goal is actually doing away with trade entirely, something like a community pool of resources that can be accessed by anyone sounds amazing. But yeah, i'll agree that this isn't going to happen until the majority of people at least start to become enlightened.
I also forgot what my original point was, so I'm kinda rambling. But I found this interesting.
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Jul 9, 2013 7:31 AM #1029931
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Exactly, so the problem isn't working or money. Its greed, selfishness, and working for a profit. The moment you start working to earn as much money as you can, and believe this will make you happy, and 'plan for tomorrow', your fucked.
If you manage to build a society on love, respect, and kindness, I believe equal exchange with money starts to work. And I think the first step towards this is people choosing jobs that they will enjoy and find fulfilling while also going out and getting what the actually want/need and boycotting everything they've been conditioned to want.

That said, I think the end goal is actually doing away with trade entirely, something like a community pool of resources that can be accessed by anyone sounds amazing. But yeah, i'll agree that this isn't going to happen until the majority of people at least start to become enlightened.
I also forgot what my original point was, so I'm kinda rambling. But I found this interesting.

Your communism only works with a society of perfect humans, capitalism is the way to go. Capitalism moderated by euthanization pills, in everyones brain obviously, that are detonated remotely by an excel document that automatically targets the individuals responsible for messing up the economy.

Damn reds..
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Jul 9, 2013 7:50 AM #1029951
We can't all be professional chocolate tasters. Someone has to work in the sewage plant.
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Jul 9, 2013 7:53 AM #1029955
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Exactly, so the problem isn't working or money. Its greed, selfishness, and working for a profit. The moment you start working to earn as much money as you can, and believe this will make you happy, and 'plan for tomorrow', your fucked.
If you manage to build a society on love, respect, and kindness, I believe equal exchange with money starts to work. And I think the first step towards this is people choosing jobs that they will enjoy and find fulfilling while also going out and getting what the actually want/need and boycotting everything they've been conditioned to want.

That said, I think the end goal is actually doing away with trade entirely, something like a community pool of resources that can be accessed by anyone sounds amazing. But yeah, i'll agree that this isn't going to happen until the majority of people at least start to become enlightened.
I also forgot what my original point was, so I'm kinda rambling. But I found this interesting.


that's it, you hit the nail on the head right there.

the thing is, choosing a job you enjoy may lead to doing something that's entirely useless. for example, i enjoyed graphic design and animation, but for the most part, the only professions available in that area basically revolved around advertising. more money-mongering business.
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Jul 9, 2013 8:01 AM #1029962
Now everybody here have too much problem...
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Jul 9, 2013 8:01 AM #1029963
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Exactly, so the problem isn't working or money. Its greed, selfishness, and working for a profit. The moment you start working to earn as much money as you can, and believe this will make you happy, and 'plan for tomorrow', your fucked.
If you manage to build a society on love, respect, and kindness, I believe equal exchange with money starts to work. And I think the first step towards this is people choosing jobs that they will enjoy and find fulfilling while also going out and getting what the actually want/need and boycotting everything they've been conditioned to want.

That said, I think the end goal is actually doing away with trade entirely, something like a community pool of resources that can be accessed by anyone sounds amazing. But yeah, i'll agree that this isn't going to happen until the majority of people at least start to become enlightened.
I also forgot what my original point was, so I'm kinda rambling. But I found this interesting.


I tend to be a bit communistic myself. But you have to understand that the trading system is something that developed and evolved over centuries. People don't know better.
I'm not the kind of person who wants a job for high amount of money, but I must say my life would be so much easier if I did have that much money. I'm going to study Molecular Life-sciences next year at University. I choose this because life has always interested me, and especially the life that in invisible to the naked eye.
Of course I will end up being some kind of laborant and earning more than the average person, while also enjoying my work and hopefully study new things and maybe even discover new things.
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Jul 9, 2013 8:05 AM #1029965
Has anyone tried grilled cheese with apple sauce? Sounds like it tastes like shit, but i fucking love it
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Jul 9, 2013 8:08 AM #1029966
There is also migration to a service based economy which is pointless without industry which is pointless without agriculture. The reason shit is fucked up is b/c of gov't sponsored ignorance of the corruption that allows the 1% to control the government in the first place.
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Jul 9, 2013 8:10 AM #1029968
Lol. I get caught up so much in these arguments with people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXEToKYXRKw

I should be studying, and yet I continue to goof off because arguing with these people is just too fun on YouTube. (Don't mean to sound like a dick, but it's true-at least for me).
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Jul 9, 2013 8:14 AM #1029973
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Lol. I get caught up so much in these arguments with people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXEToKYXRKw

I should be studying, and yet I continue to goof off because arguing with these people is just too fun on YouTube. (Don't mean to sound like a dick, but it's true-at least for me).

Its summer, I'm outta school I ain't got no job, and I aint got shit to do. Of course Imab a keyboard warrior.
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Jul 9, 2013 8:40 AM #1029985
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Your communism only works with a society of perfect humans

Then communism goes hand in hand with enlightenment. But if your going to go commy you might as well go all the way and join an anarcho-communist society.

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We can't all be professional chocolate tasters. Someone has to work in the sewage plant.

This is a point that had me stuck for ages. But thinking on how technology is developing, is it to crazy to assume we could get to the point where mundane and menial jobs are automated?

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I tend to be a bit communistic myself. But you have to understand that the trading system is something that developed and evolved over centuries. People don't know better.
I'm not the kind of person who wants a job for high amount of money, but I must say my life would be so much easier if I did have that much money. I'm going to study Molecular Life-sciences next year at University. I choose this because life has always interested me, and especially the life that in invisible to the naked eye.
Of course I will end up being some kind of laborant and earning more than the average person, while also enjoying my work and hopefully study new things and maybe even discover new things.

Your right, and everything I've said is long term plans. Like at least 1000 years. And change is scary, slow, and usually hard, but that doesn't mean it can't/shouldn't happen.
It sounds like your doing a similar thing to me. I picked chemistry because there was always something about it that held my interest, and I always enjoyed it and found it challenging. But I also like that its such a large field that if I do get bored, I can change my job slightly and face a whole new set of challenges and experiences.