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And I'm only describing what you think is a grudge because as a mod I should care. If I wasn't then I could really really care less. Not to say that I'm only caring because im modding

you should care as a mod when he's breaking the rules; flaming him because you personally find him annoying has nothing to do with you being a mod. honestly you being a mod has little to nothing to do with this, other than the fact that it reflects poorly on you since your behavior should be held to higher standards and scrutiny.

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but when you see people being harrassed in the thread for no reason and you can do something about it you would.

lmao, harassed in a thread for no reason huh? hey, that sounds kind of familiar... oh yeah, it's exactly what you were doing to grim. duuurrrrr
since when was he harassing anyone? he's been the one getting shat on at every turn for no discernable reason other than his reputation. if there's a victim here it's obviously him

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I cant watch it right now cos its blocked here.
I could really really care less.

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PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO ASAP

saying "i could care less" makes you look so fucking stupid and you don't even realize it. just think about how the english language works and read that phrase again

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What? No he didn't. Whether or not he was justified, he was acting hypocritical, which I believe warrants criticism. Not once have I ever seen him approach an argument that was directed towards him "nicely." You could argue that he wasn't being rude or at least not intentionally, but it sure as hell wasn't banter.

you both keep drawing from soley past occasions to justify lashing out at him recently
it was banter when he said "I make people laugh all the time, and sometimes I am even trying to." because it was a joke. get it-- people laugh at him, self-deprecating humor? even if it was cheesy, why the fuck would you respond with serious hostility? multiple people ganged up on him after that joke

what exactly am i missing? he called hewitt obnoxious after hewitt already provoked an argument for no reason at all. the only hypocricy i saw was what grim correctly pointed out

1. he was messing around and posted in another language ---> mantha gets pissed because it's "obnoxious" - what the fuck?
2. he explains why sacred's post was in another language after someone mentions it, plainly stating facts ----> hewitt gets pissed because he stated relevant facts. what the FUCK?!?!?

after that it was just people jumping in and ganging up on him while ignoring his attempts to stop the line of conversation from being so argumentative

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That wasn't the start of it. Hewitt used that as evidence to show Grimm his stubborn ailments. It all started when we called out Grimm on being a try hard. He kept arguing how it was done intentionally.
Index, if you were there, and of all people, I think you'd be the one who'd kick him to shit for that.

no, it started when mantha called him obnoxious. after that it was just lining up insults like "tryhard" for no reason. why single him out as a tryhard anyway? everyone responded to his normal-ass posts which were either explaining himself or naturally defending himself with genuine flaming out of nowhere. that's what i didn't understand

he obviously has some sort of reputation that turned everyone hostile regardless of his new posts. none of the posts i saw were even slightly aggrevating or deserving of being called out. instead of responding or choosing to not respond based on what he actually posted, you guys just quoted his initial lighthearted posts, ignored what they actually said, and randomly went off on him for whatever buzzword insult you could think of. see: "tryhard"

it's embarassing to see happen and obviously unfair in a legitimately annoying way. i mean, it looks like he can't go here and casually post things he finds humorous without being called out for some tangential bullshit. sacred's reaction was definitely on point, aside from calling exilement out when he had nothing to do with this.

this isn't even like when there's a member everyone hates to the point of infamy and every single one of his posts are total ass with every word misspelled and blatantly shitting the place up. to repeat myself: grim didn't even do anything. if i couldn't see the names of members i would think his posts were made by someone who joined three years ago. they were written fine, much less plainly stupid than hewitt's backwards idioms, posting average humor attempts, and posting average defenses and explanations of his own actions. tying random buzzword insults to him in this instance was nonsensical, yet it kept piling up, making everyone participating look like schoolyard children. hewitt actually had the audacity to get in a stern "i'm serious, young man" voice and say grim was trying to "win" "this argument" after he made a simple snarky reply (which i actually agreed with upon seeing, by the way), just like literally ANYONE with two balls in their nutsack would do. it's like you expected him to go "Yessir" and bend over after you instigate with hostile comments that are completely unwarranted.

note: there are nearby storms where i live and my internet is almost completely out so i've been unable to post/reply/read pages for a while now. posting this was a huge pain in the arse and i wrote the post in notepad, which is why the quotes are fucked up. the reply box couldn't load

Quote from Raptor

Come on now, its not like you have a mental issue.

I have Asperger's Syndrome, which I think is a mental issue (or several issues, rather). I have a deficiency in social skills because of it, which is probably why I miscommunicate as badly as I do.

inb4 Raptor please

you don't need to apologize for trying to be funny

that's what literally everyone who posts in the chat thread does

the people who need to apologize are the dickheads who keep trying to gang up on you (still not clear on why they chose you to label with random buzzwords like tryhard)


seriously, this is so fucking pathetic to see. hewitt, look at yourself. how about you cut it out? fuck

the fact that he has aspergers just makes this more pathetic lol. not talking about him, of course, but you guys

Index stop harrassing me or the cycle of vengeance will never end

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Index stop harrassing me or the cycle of vengeance will never end

i swear my post was really short till my internet went out and then i had nothing to do but keep grilling you and grilling you :^)

Can't we all just get along guys

Would you little bitches stop being so butthurt at each other?

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Would you little bitches stop being so butthurt at each other?

have you guys ever noticed that whenever there's a big off-topic argument in a thread, as soon as gets drawn out and finally starts to settle, there always has to be this one smarmy, "i'm better than all of you", spectating douchebag who comes in and posts something like "look at what you guys did, you seriously argued about so and so? Pah, you silly idiots. How petty! Look at yourselves! That argument was so pointless and you are just silly, here's a sarcastic and joking exaggeration of what happened." Holy shit, shut the fuck up you smug dickhead. Every fucking time. "itt: silly people argued a silly thing. (Wow, I'm so much better than everyone even though I wasn't even here when this thing happened. I have no side or real opinion, just smug meta-commentary about the act of arguing itself.)" It's such a ridiculously safe way to look better than literally everyone who participated in a disagreement by saying that they were stupid just for disagreeing and making a big deal over it. It's so safe that it happens every fucking time by different dickheads around the world. They all had the douchey idea to grab that chance at looking better than everyone who just finished actually racking their brains writing the best arguments they could about something that concerned them. It takes no intelligent thought and is completely undeserved; it's an obvious opportunity to not even kick people while they're down, but to give the illusion that you are kicking them while they're down.

inb4 everyone who insulted Grimm starts sucking Index's dick. That being said, I agree with him lol. Personally I never "liked" Grimm, but I went back and looked at his recent posts to see where all this came from and I think some of the responses he got were unnecessary

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have you guys ever noticed that whenever there's a big off-topic argument in a thread, as soon as gets drawn out and finally starts to settle, there always has to be this one smarmy, "i'm better than all of you", spectating douchebag who comes in and posts something like "look at what you guys did, you seriously argued about so and so? Pah, you silly idiots. How petty! Look at yourselves! That argument was so pointless and you are just silly, here's a sarcastic and joking exaggeration of what happened." Holy shit, shut the fuck up you smug dickhead. Every fucking time. "itt: silly people argued a silly thing. (Wow, I'm so much better than everyone even though I wasn't even here when this thing happened. I have no side or real opinion, just smug meta-commentary about the act of arguing itself.)" It's such a ridiculously safe way to look better than literally everyone who participated in a disagreement by saying that they were stupid just for disagreeing and making a big deal over it. It's so safe that it happens every fucking time by different dickheads around the world. They all had the douchey idea to grab that chance at looking better than everyone who just finished actually racking their brains writing the best arguments they could about something that concerned them. It takes no intelligent thought and is completely undeserved; it's an obvious opportunity to not even kick people while they're down, but to give the illusion that you are kicking them while they're down.

FUCKING ROASTED

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inb4 everyone who insulted Grimm starts sucking Index's dick. That being said, I agree with him lol

haaaaaaaaaaaa you have the same name has him

lol

Let me clarify. I was mainly referencing this post:

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I dont see how being a dick can be justified. The way I see it, ranting is a barbaric tool used by self-loathing, inhuman cretins to bring anyone who is capable of sympathy for others down to their level in order to deprive their victim of their humanity. Now, I don't think anyone here is that hateful, but I have my doubts.

To answer your question, have you ever thought about asking nicely? Not once have I ever seen someone here rant at a user who asked them to stop in a civil manner. In fact, I know it works because I asked Ahmad and Camila not to start fighting when they had a disagreement forever ago on the picture thread. I had read both their sides of it, and tried to smooth things over by explaining each side in an objective viewpoint. It worked, believe it or not.



As I said, ranting at me isn't very helpful. All it does is piss me off and goad me into responding by ranting back.

Anything before that I don't care about.
I'm calling him out on his hypocrisy because he's trying to lecture people on trying to resolve things in a nicer fashion. Concept wise its a nice idea since there are some people who need to take a chill pill, but while making this argument he talks as if he's some sort of expert in resolving arguments. Like I said, in the past few months I've seen him, he's never tried (or at least to a very minimal extent) to reach out and talk to the mods politely. In the end, it always ends up in some kind of flame war and Grimm is the one who throws either the match or the gasoline. You talk of the past events as if it happened a year ago; most incidents involving Grimm are recent and relevant.

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I have Asperger's Syndrome, which I think is a mental issue (or several issues, rather). I have a deficiency in social skills because of it, which is probably why I miscommunicate as badly as I do.

inb4 Raptor please

Hahaha I didn't see that coming. Well played.

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have you guys ever noticed that whenever there's a big off-topic argument in a thread, as soon as gets drawn out and finally starts to settle, there always has to be this one smarmy, "i'm better than all of you", spectating douchebag who comes in and posts something like "look at what you guys did, you seriously argued about so and so? Pah, you silly idiots. How petty! Look at yourselves! That argument was so pointless and you are just silly, here's a sarcastic and joking exaggeration of what happened." Holy shit, shut the fuck up you smug dickhead. Every fucking time. "itt: silly people argued a silly thing. (Wow, I'm so much better than everyone even though I wasn't even here when this thing happened. I have no side or real opinion, just smug meta-commentary about the act of arguing itself.)" It's such a ridiculously safe way to look better than literally everyone who participated in a disagreement by saying that they were stupid just for disagreeing and making a big deal over it. It's so safe that it happens every fucking time by different dickheads around the world. They all had the douchey idea to grab that chance at looking better than everyone who just finished actually racking their brains writing the best arguments they could about something that concerned them. It takes no intelligent thought and is completely undeserved; it's an obvious opportunity to not even kick people while they're down, but to give the illusion that you are kicking them while they're down.

have you ever noticed that perhaps some people will lurk around an argument and not bother posting because he has nothing to input because of the sheer stupidness of the argument itself? Seriously, a few guys find a member annoying. Does this really require an multi-page long arguement? Is there really nothing else to discus?

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Let me clarify. I was mainly referencing this post:

Anything before that I don't care about.
I'm calling him out on his hypocrisy because he's trying to lecture people on trying to resolve things in a nicer fashion. Concept wise its a nice idea since there are some people who need to take a chill pill, but while making this argument he talks as if he's some sort of expert in resolving arguments. Like I said, in the past few months I've seen him, he's never tried (or at least to a very minimal extent) to reach out and talk to the mods politely. In the end, it always ends up in some kind of flame war and Grimm is the one who throws either the match or the gasoline. You talk of the past events as if it happened a year ago; most incidents involving Grimm are recent and relevant.

the "argument" (not really an argument, just ganging up for no reason) started way before that, and grimm was dragged into it. like i said, what did you expect him to do at that point, bend over and take it? he tried to defend himself from all the attacks, okay.

that post is pretty irrelevant as everything had already been set in motion, and the instigating posts that i kept talking about along with his initial replies were far before that. what matters about that post to me isn't whether or not his point is "right," but the way it was delivered. it was definitely calm and mature, almost impressive. i don't know anything about the history/reputations you both reference, and i'm not going to get into whatever point about ranting he was trying to make. when you're that far into being singled out and flamed, you're probably going to grasp at whatever you can. he did it in a perfectly acceptable way that isn't deserving of lowdown insults. maybe, at the least, you could dissect his argument in a civil debate-oriented way, rather than an accusatory and hostile way.

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have you ever noticed that perhaps some people will lurk around an argument and not bother posting because he has nothing to input because of the sheer stupidness of the argument itself? Seriously, a few guys find a member annoying. Does this really require an multi-page long arguement? Is there really nothing else to discus?

You are proving Index right you know, especially with what is in bold. You are implying that because you didn't say anything, that you are better than everyone else on the thread (Pretty much all the speakers were engaged in the argument), but I really dont know if you intended to imply that or not...

If acting rude and stubborn is a bad thing, then why haven't you guys pulled me off to the side to have an intervention with me yet?