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Jul 10, 2014 12:16 PM #1217689
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Well one of those people was me dude, cuz as a muslim i found it kinda offensive.
but it's all over now,really this time.
you can think and trust what you want but refusing what others think and trust is the cause of war between religions


If you REALLY believed in your religion, I don't see how a stranger on the internet can even moderately ruffle your feathers. I did it for the lols, sure, but now I am becoming very interested in people's reactions to this. We have had some very insulting conversations about Christianity in the past, and while people were offended, they were able to brush it off easily. Curious.


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To be quite honest I feel a little offended. Sure you say you're joking, and you may believe it but there is always truth in jest. You're subconsciously developing a prejudice. I bet you fancy yourself an intelligent individual. Willing to say what ever among your friends, you have no respect nor any disrespect towards anything because all is a target. I've read as you ripped the religion of Islam and defended your inappropriate humor as a mere way of having fun. You know Slave masters gathered and joked of how the "niggers" were stupid, animals and savages? In the midst of Nazi Germany the soldiers joked of the petty "Jew". Today Men/Women Fat/Skinny shame each other. These "jokes" are heard and relayed among the young-lings and begin to construct discrimination within the society. These "jokes" locked away Japanese-Americans, pillaged innocent Vietnamese villages, split a country in half (Civil War) and nearly destroyed Europe. Watch yourself please, don't fall victim to the ignorance.


And you DO realise that none of these prejudiced jokes were over the internet? If you I was making these jokes to a bunch of friends in the presence of muslims in an antagonist/mocking way, I would understand half the reason for taking offence. But you're telling me that saying it to a bunch of no-names over the internet is cause for legitimate offence?

See, this is one of the things that angers me a lot. Relgion (and CERTAIN relgions) often seems to be given a free pass. Its ok to make fun of someone for their height, weight, looks, moral ambiguity, horniness etc... but its not ok to question and insult something that is TOTALLY unprovable and HAS (without doubt) led to certain atrocities being committed in it's name.

I dont mean to drag this fight on, but I am genuinely fascinated with the arguments of people who can defend this sort of thing from a moral viewpoint saying "Oh its stuff like insulting people over the internet that led to Slave owners whipping their niggers 300 years before the internet was invented."
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Jul 10, 2014 12:25 PM #1217691
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If you REALLY believed in your religion, I don't see how a stranger on the internet can even moderately ruffle your feathers. I did it for the lols, sure, but now I am becoming very interested in people's reactions to this. We have had some very insulting conversations about Christianity in the past, and while people were offended, they were able to brush it off easily. Curious.

First, i defended my religion, second i dont care if you are a stranger, you talk bad about my religion, i think i might expess my opinion about your opinion.
i brushed off all this from the begin, but you continued, i was not complaining or arguing, just continued to follow what you wrote and express what i think of it.
anyways it all right now there is no reason to be ''angry'' as you said you are, we can continue discuss about this but withouth becoming angry after reading what another person said :D
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Jul 10, 2014 12:32 PM #1217692
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we can continue discuss about this but withouth becoming angry after reading what another person said :D


Yeah, my point exactly. الله أكبر
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Jul 10, 2014 12:35 PM #1217694
:D
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Jul 10, 2014 12:43 PM #1217698
Wow, you completely missed the entire message. For what has caused you so much anger I will never know.
Its ok to make fun of someone for their height, weight, looks, moral ambiguity, horniness

Its not, no one ever said it was okay. The collective opinion (if I may, correct me if I'm wrong) is to just be careful what you post for you never know who may gaze upon it. The mind is boundless such conversations are trivial to what can really be discussed. Plus, just to clarify are you stating that your anti-religious jesting is fine because everyone else is doing it?
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Jul 10, 2014 12:46 PM #1217699
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Wow, you completely missed the entire message. For what has caused you so much anger I will never know.

Its not, no one ever said it was okay. The collective opinion (if I may, correct me if I'm wrong) is to just be careful what you post for you never know who may gaze upon it. The mind is boundless such conversations are trivial to what can really be discussed. Plus, just to clarify are you stating that your anti-religious jesting is fine because everyone else is doing it?

Well, he said that he didn intend the offensive phrase, but that he still think her meaning, and i think that at this point, it's pretty fine
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Jul 10, 2014 12:47 PM #1217700
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:D
الله أكبر والحمد لله


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Did you just tell me to bomb the White House?

:O :O

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Wow, you completely missed the entire message. For what has caused you so much anger I will never know.

Its not, no one ever said it was okay. The collective opinion (if I may, correct me if I'm wrong) is to just be careful what you post for you never know who may gaze upon it. The mind is boundless such conversations are trivial to what can really be discussed. Plus, just to clarify are you stating that your anti-religious jesting is fine because everyone else is doing it?


No I'm saying being offended when someone does that ON THE INTERNET is asinine. No one should be on a forum if they don't know how to take a joke. No one. This is not the limp-wristed-gentlemen's-club guys.
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Jul 10, 2014 12:48 PM #1217701
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Did you just tell me to bomb the White House?

:O :O

Ahaha are you actually testing my reaction to your jokes? xDxD
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Jul 10, 2014 12:56 PM #1217704
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Ahaha are you actually testing my reaction to your jokes? xDxD


I want to know how far you'll go before declaring a Jihad on me.

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Jul 10, 2014 1:00 PM #1217705
Actually, this is pretty uncomfortable to watch. How long are you going to insult someone who's being very gracious and trying to get you to stop without insulting you in return?
Religion is a big part of who people are, and it hurts when that part of them is mocked and insulted. He's being a lot calmer than he should be and you're being very harsh.
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Jul 10, 2014 1:01 PM #1217706
Dude, just to clear this, the objective of a muslim isn't Jihad, Jihad is only one of maaany other things you can do, there are even things much easier than sacrifice yourself and with the same, how can i say it..''reward''?
Aaaand finally, let me finally say it:
Suicide isn't legal in Islam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so if someone bombs himself, know that that's not Jihad..
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Jul 10, 2014 1:05 PM #1217708
YO! its like ALLAH wanted me to find this.
I was just scrolling through Facebook. This is bananas that I found this
http://iacknowledge.net/watch-a-unapologetic-islamophobe-get-spectacularly-shut-down-by-a-muslim-activist/
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Jul 10, 2014 1:14 PM #1217710
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Actually, this is pretty uncomfortable to watch. How long are you going to insult someone who's being very gracious and trying to get you to stop without insulting you in return?
Religion is a big part of who people are, and it hurts when that part of them is mocked and insulted. He's being a lot calmer than he should be and you're being very harsh.


I forgot to translate the Arabic for you. I basically declared peace and shook hands with him. I thought the Team America photo would make it clear it was for the Lolz.

Goddamn it guys, I'm having Asshole syndrome again.


Come hug me my brothers. Let us fight no longer.
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Jul 10, 2014 1:24 PM #1217713
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I forgot to translate the Arabic for you. I basically declared peace and shook hands with him. I thought the Team America photo would make it clear it was for the Lolz.

Goddamn it guys, I'm having Asshole syndrome again.


Come hug me my brothers. Let us fight no longer.

Thanks Devour, i appreciate that C:
and that's true the words in arabic that Nish wrote are absolutely good :D
We're not fighting anymore rather we didnt fight at all, that' just expressing opinion freedom, im really happy that this is how the story ended, it demonstrates also that Nish doesnt hate Islam and respects religions, anyways, as we all have a negative side we also have a positive side, the positive needs more effort to appear, We can be all Brothers even with different religions
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Jul 10, 2014 1:25 PM #1217714
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Nope it's just because we have to save Dolphins


You know how I feel about dolphins.