I find him far more annoying than Mike ever was. Because he actually believes he is one of us and wants us to buy into some premise that he is 'cool'.

If people would have just ignored Mike maybe we wouldn't be reaching pg 12345 this soon. And I'm calling dibs on a post in pg 12345.

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If people would have just ignored Mike maybe we wouldn't be reaching pg 12345 this soon. And I'm calling dibs on a post in pg 12345.

Haha I'm staying well out of that shit. People here still seem to think that removing the delete function was warranted because of all the shit that was created earlier when a similar phenomenon occured. So it must have been fucked up.

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So you are basically saying UNLESS someone is going to be a solid member here, there is no point to being their friend?

Yes, this is what I'm saying
if he is continuously annoying and he doesn't contribute anything of value then I don't see the point in being "friends" with him.
That and having respect for his situation are separate issues, I'm not going to make any cancer jokes while he's around out of respect for what he's going through, but the guy himself is just unbearable, why should I or you for that matter go any further. Just because he doesn't really understand what's going on? Is that why we have to include him, because normally that's the perfect reason for exclusion, but somehow this is different

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Yes, this is what I'm saying
if he is continuously annoying and he doesn't contribute anything of value then I don't see the point in being "friends" with him.
That and having respect for his situation are separate issues, I'm not going to make any cancer jokes while he's around out of respect for what he's going through, but the guy himself is just unbearable, why should I or you for that matter go any further. Just because he doesn't really understand what's going on? Is that why we have to include him, because normally that's the perfect reason for exclusion, but somehow this is different

Either your entire life revolves around stickpage or what you said makes no sense.

Of course the guy is unbearable. I've told him several times that he is unbearable. I'm not asking YOU to go to any seperate lengths to teach him anything, but what I don't understand is why you (or Jutsu) have a problem with anyone else being nicer to him than normal?

I'm not saying YOU have to include him into anything, but stop reducing my efforts to be nice to him as pointless. Maybe my life goes beyond stickpage. Maybe I am capable of showing leniency to someone SOLELY because it will make their day (JUST THAT DAY, THOSE 24 HOURS) better if I'm nicer to them. Maybe, because I empathise with a dying parent, I know that the smallest relief can come from weird places. I really don't see where I asked YOU to be nice to him, but I'm incredibly disgusted by your insistence that ME being nice to him is pointless.

If the mods want him gone, let them ban him.

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and he doesn't contribute anything of value then I don't see the point in being "friends" with him.

I'd argue that him trying to insult Ashlander with this

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Ashlander ... and that avatar picture is disgusting to have.

has comic value.

He has incredible comic value which must be channeled. We could have the next Ipman here and you assholes are ruining it.

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I don't know what your problem is specifically. You've been far more of a dick about all this than anybody else. I've found myself losing quite a bit of respect of you're posts the last few pages.

Nigga please.
You act like you're any better than me by agreeing with nish, when nish "the guy who is allegedly defending this user", called him a retard, twice.

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Group A: Thinks it is ok to hold someone retarded with a dying mother to the same standards as rest of us. I think most of you subscribe to that view.

Group B: Think it is ok to show someone retarded with a dying mother some measure of leniency. Being stern without being cruel. I seem to be the only person of that view.

"Oh no, Jutsu, stop being an asshole!" *Flailing uncontrollably*

Now, I'm more than willing to admit I'm biased. But like I said, I could tell from the very first post of his I read, that he isn't firing on all cylinders.

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Homosexuality is a sin and not right at all because marriage is meant and only meant between man and woman. And to have sex outside of marriage is a sin.

Now if you'd please step off of your high horse, that'd be fantastic.

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You're again coming at this from the view that Stickpage is the end all and be all of the world. At least this might give him some support he needs in the real world. Whether he will be gone from here or not, being nice to a guy who's mom is dying is NOT cruel. At least we can be nice to him for the brief period he is here.

I was 100% empathetic with his story, as I've actually been through it. It's just that I don't believe him anymore based on how much he's lied about already. I think him being a pathological liar, or a flat out troll isn't a stretch.

I have no idea what you're talking about with "My view" though.

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Yes, stop doing THIS also. Stop criticising other people when you yourself have behaved far worse. Correct all your mistakes before you criticise him. He may have said something you (or I) don't agree with, but he has been a member here for a VERY long time and has more or less been accepted into the community. You haven't.

I mean, it's never stopped anyone from criticizing me before. To be frank I couldn't care less what he thinks, because he doesn't really know me.

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He has incredible comic value which must be channeled. We could have the next Ipman here and you assholes are ruining it.

This is exactly why I'm fine with Stickboy staying. It's like having cute little retarded puppies or something.

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Nigga please.
You act like you're any better than me by agreeing with nish, when nish "the guy who is allegedly defending this user", called him a retard, twice.

The only only thing I agree with Nish on is that everybody else has been overly aggressive about the whole thing. We actually disagree over the reasoning behind it.

And neither of us are black, so cut the nigga shit.

Jutz:

a) I called him a retard to his face, because he needs to know why I'm being lenient to him. He shouldn't think I'm doing it because he has merit as a member.

b) He himself admitted that he isn't firing from all cylinders, he is mentally disabled. Which is why I don't understand why we should flame him for talking like a mentally disabled person. Either ban him or put up with him. Again, there is NOTHING legally or technically wrong with holding him to the same standards as anyone else, after all this is the internet. I just feel it is scummy on personal grounds. Just me though.

c) He could be a pathological liar or a troll. Very well so. But that is still a guess. So why we don't have to automatically assume his story is TRUE, it isn't justified to automatically treat his story as a lie either.

d) I was referring not just to his criticism of you, but of people in general. Yes, you shouldn't care what he thinks, not just because he does'nt know you, but also because he doesn't have the tools to judge you even if he did know you.

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This is exactly why I'm fine with Stickboy staying. It's like having cute little retarded puppies or something.

I just find it very dangerous to my blood pressure whenever he posts.

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Jutz:

a) I called him a retard to his face, because he needs to know why I'm being lenient to him. He shouldn't think I'm doing it because he has merit as a member.

b) He himself admitted that he isn't firing from all cylinders, he is mentally disabled. Which is why I don't understand why we should flame him for talking like a mentally disabled person. Either ban him or put up with him. Again, there is NOTHING legally or technically wrong with holding him to the same standards as anyone else, after all this is the internet. I just feel it is scummy on personal grounds. Just me though.

c) He could be a pathological liar or a troll. Very well so. But that is still a guess. So why we don't have to automatically assume his story is TRUE, it isn't justified to automatically treat his story as a lie either.

d) I was referring not just to his criticism of you, but of people in general. Yes, you shouldn't care what he thinks, not just because he does'nt know you, but also because he doesn't have the tools to judge you even if he did know you.



I just find it very dangerous to my blood pressure whenever he posts.

I want everyone to take a step back and realize we're breaking new social ground here. Cave man never really had to figure this shit out.
Anyways.

a) I totally agree with you calling him that. It just seems like it's contrary to your advocacy of treating him nicely.

b) I say ban him. I think it's better for him if he's not here. You can preach all you want about giving him a good experience during his short stay here before his inevitable departure. But when you're the only person attempting to be positive towards him and you call him retarded?
I think it's in everyone's best interest if he just goes, I think it would be best for him.

c) But I'm not automatically assuming he's lying, like I said at first I was 100% empathetic. It's just that he's been lying about a lot of things already, who is to say he isn't lying about all of it?

d) I agree with that.

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This is exactly why I'm fine with Stickboy staying. It's like having cute little retarded puppies or something.

But StickBoy isn't mentally retarded so it's not as adorable.

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But StickBoy isn't mentally retarded so it's not as adorable.

I mean....

Retarded: less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age.

Which is why there is nothing wrong in calling him retarded as long as he is treated well.

Smile, do you honestly think StickBoy should stay? Does anyone? Jutsut? Drone? Ashlander?

Dear God.

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Which is why there is nothing wrong in calling him retarded as long as he is treated well.

Smile, do you honestly think StickBoy should stay? Does anyone? Jutsut? Drone? Ashlander?

Dear God.

Who the fuck is stickboy?

Also I guess we're having a culture difference again. In the USA the term retarded is accompanied with a heavily insulting and negative caveat.
It's what you call people on playgrounds in elementary school for stealing your pokemon cards.