Suspected account stolen of Pumu's

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Oct 20, 2014 6:40 PM #1258041
Just a suspicion, and I'm not sure there's anything to do about it but Pumu, your account looks like someone has stolen it, is now trying to use it to get other accounts, and has dropped the elo considerably.
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Oct 20, 2014 6:42 PM #1258042
It's a shared account. Pumu doesn't know how to make one of his own.
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Oct 20, 2014 6:53 PM #1258044
How do you know he is trying to get other accounts?
This happens to me all the time I say no to people that want my account!
PUMU has a shared account? why does such a good players have a shared account? surely that makes his high grade (I think its high) Impossible?
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Oct 20, 2014 6:56 PM #1258046
he wants to get other accounts because he cannot pay for membership, and he wants to play with ele

If my memory is correct, there are like 5 people have access to Iamxsos

It is useless to give much expectation or focus on any shared accounts, just like HAYAN.

For me, I never give out my account except my best friend for them to play non ranked.
I once gave out my account to my cousin, and he simply messed up my account and ruined my reputation, and that reminds me not to give out account anymore.
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Oct 20, 2014 6:59 PM #1258050
Oh, well. That clears things up I guess :P
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Oct 20, 2014 7:03 PM #1258051
That was quick :)

do you think this is a major problem is SE?
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Oct 20, 2014 7:13 PM #1258052
Only for people that share accounts :P

I mean, really, do you expect a shared account to be secure?
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Oct 20, 2014 7:16 PM #1258053
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That was quick :)

do you think this is a major problem is SE?


I don't think so, at least not many people use shared accounts at this moment
But Share / stolen are two different concepts

If anyone chooses to use a shared account, then he has to endure any bad outcomes from the shared account.
For stolen, then just report it.

But share account in general is ruining the community. Because the game supposes to charge every membership player one by one.
for example, originally it should be ~$4 for one player, but now it becomes $0.8 for one player every month, which greatly decreases the budget of the game.
If many players share membership accounts , then the game cannot earns money and will die gradually.
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Oct 20, 2014 7:17 PM #1258054
Good point

no as it get shared around.
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Oct 20, 2014 7:31 PM #1258057
However electricity costs don't go up from a shared account because 5 people using one account is less strain on the servers than just 1 (because you can't multi queue).
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Oct 20, 2014 7:48 PM #1258060
Sharing account is just as guilty as stealing it. What makes stealing wrong? Using an account not belonging to you. Does not the same principle apply to "sharing" one? It's like I share an account with someone, I'm practically ranking it in for him. It doesn't matter what players it's between, it's entirely fraudulent.
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Oct 20, 2014 7:51 PM #1258061
How about sharing an account for unranked? You both own it, and neither of you 'lie' about elo ratings.
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Oct 20, 2014 8:08 PM #1258062
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Sharing account is just as guilty as stealing it. What makes stealing wrong? Using an account not belonging to you. Does not the same principle apply to "sharing" one? It's like I share an account with someone, I'm practically ranking it in for him. It doesn't matter what players it's between, it's entirely fraudulent.


I agree with you on the part of ranking

Share account ranking is fraudulent, because it is a combination of efforts from different players, and cannot show the specific ranking of a particular player.

However, in terms of concept, sharing is still different from stealing. One is active and voluntarily, another one is passive.

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How about sharing an account for unranked? You both own it, and neither of you 'lie' about elo ratings.

I partly agree on this , for the sake of players, it is good, because players who don't have membership can still enjoy the fun
Those inactive players who have membership can also prevent from wasting their money without playing their own account.

But for the sake of game creators, it is just a disrespect. Game creators spend time and effort to create new features and improve game quality, but they do not get what they want in return.
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Oct 20, 2014 8:25 PM #1258066
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However, in terms of concept, sharing is still different from stealing. One is active and voluntarily, another one is passive.


Not in this case. If you're using an account other than you're own, it is stealing.

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I partly agree on this , for the sake of players, it is good, because players who don't have membership can still enjoy the fun.


That's why there are free trials. You're offering no incentive to purchase the complete empire set by letting anyone use it for free.

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But for the sake of game creators, it is just a disrespect.


Not just their sake, anyone's sake. What, I suppose you'll let me play for free then, right?

The money is there to support the game and the developers to continue releasing new content. You remove that, you're flipping the bird. How can you partly agree with this? It's very black and white.
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Oct 20, 2014 8:35 PM #1258069
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Not in this case. If you're using an account other than you're own, it is stealing.



That's why there are free trials. You're offering no incentive to purchase the complete empire set by letting anyone use it for free.



Not just their sake, anyone's sake. What, I suppose you'll let me play for free then, right?

The money is there to support the game and the developers to continue releasing new content. You remove that, you're flipping the bird. How can you partly agree with this? It's very black and white.


I mean the opposite side , if I am the one who give out my account to others, then it is a voluntary action. Giving out something voluntarily is quite different from stealing.

To be honest, the five free trials are nearly nothing. It is very common for a newbie of 1300 to waste 5 trials within a few minutes, let alone to say enjoy any fun .
Also, there is no free trial for elemental as well.

And think about the purpose of sharing as well. Almost every clan had a clan-shared account before or right now, Iamxsos, TZxbloodyrain, RIxRI or more
all these shared accounts are for training purpose or offering fun to the clan mates. (I do not say I agree with this idea)