Chat rules and ban appeals

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Dec 29, 2014 7:26 PM #1287737
If you go the the advanced view there's probably a button for it - if I even understand you correctly.
You're very confusing Kaito.

Regarding the OP and general system, what are the thoughts on making our Spreadsheet publicly viewable? Obviously very few mods are using it so it's not going to be an inclusive list but it might help people check back for themselves or get an idea of what sort of punishments get handed out.
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Dec 29, 2014 8:20 PM #1287745
Quote from TheLegendofKaito
Banned for 1 hour. I asked Ase Player to un ban me because I was banned for no reason, he said he didn't care. If someone could tell me how to obtain video url, i can give proof.


By what do you mean obtain it...?
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Dec 29, 2014 8:46 PM #1287753
Isn't this the second time being banned "without reason"? Making that mistake twice seems unlikely, you probably said or did something you think is ok but chat mods did not.
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Dec 29, 2014 10:20 PM #1287777
@Xander Idk how to obtain video url as I can't find any sites to do so

@WMC In the video I scroll all the way up in the chatbox

Yeah I understand you can't do the
KaitoMaster:
(Someone else):
thing when that person actually exisst. All I have been doing recently is making up FAKE NAMES. There are no rules I believe to prohibit this.
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Dec 29, 2014 10:53 PM #1287785
You 'obtain' a video url when you have a webpage hosting a video.

It's kinda in the name. Y'know, like Youtube videos?

If you make up fake names, fine, I don't do anything about it and it's not breaking any rules, but the moment you do something to get chat banned or whatever on one of the accounts, we chat ban all the rest if you switch over to them to dodge the ban. I don't know if this is what Ace did or not, but there's some background context at least.
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Dec 30, 2014 12:19 AM #1287815
I used Camtasia and do not use youtube.
And no, I did not dodge it.
Ase banned me again.
He said it was impersonating
I said I wasn;t impersonating anyone, the names were fake
he said he didn't care
I have the videos, just don't know how to get url
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Dec 30, 2014 12:28 AM #1287819
You mean you made a video on your computer, did not use youtube and want to know how to share it with us? You've answered your own question.
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Dec 30, 2014 1:18 AM #1287830
Wow Kaito. First off, if you were banned by another mod, i'm not aloud to do anything about it. Second, You impersonated people in the chat saying
KaitoMaster; (blah blah)
(impersonating acc): (message)
It doesn't matter if the account is not real, I have warned you multiple times on the subject on multiple days and at that point you knew perfectly it was wrong. Once again, I don't care if they are fake accounts. One of the fake accounts involved my name Ase(etc) so you were targeting me on purpose. Those are my reasons, and I stand perfectly by them. Also black mailing me to unban you or you would email brock is not the smartest thing to do.. Just sayin.
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Dec 30, 2014 1:27 AM #1287833
First of all http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?89491-I-HAVE-BEEN-HACKED-!!!!!!!!

So basically you complained when someone did it to you, so now you are using the exact same he did because you learned how to do it.
You should be lucky to only be banned for an hour if this behavior was repetitive and you received a lot of warnings.

EDIT: Its 1 hour, 60 minutes. Play a few matches and its already up, are you that needy of the lobby chat?
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Dec 30, 2014 1:31 AM #1287835
Quite honestly it should of been a day, but I'm a nice person.

I have been on in the chat for at least 16 hours a day or so. I guess thats all to do during winter break :P But seriously i'm on practically the whole day and I ban maybe 50+ a day not including all the alts *shudder*. But I agree people need to become more active I think I say this truthfully, i'm the most active admin here, and it gets a bit overwhelming when multiple people make alts at the same time xD
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Dec 30, 2014 1:32 AM #1287836
Firstly I never black mailed you and I don't know who brock is
I told you I reported you.
Secondly, yeah you have 'warned me,' but it's not a valid rule that I can't make up fake names. There is nothing wrong with it
Thirdly, if you are offended by me making a comment that says : "AseNub: hey"(which only happened once btw)I have no idea why you are a moderator.
Fourthly, the technicality is that the name " Ase " is not reserved for you and your fans.
Fifthly, when there are fake Ases made to attack you, you ban them, but when there are fake Ases made and they spam the chat when you are on(but don't attack you), I never see them getting banned. Such as ASEPLAYER01.


oh and @cheetos when i learned the cause i didnt really mind much~(i do know it's wrong, don't get me wrong)
and I am not impersonating anyone.
also, the point is not whether I am in need of lobby chat. the point is that it was UNFAIR of that to happen. FYI, i have nothing else to do but chat as I wait for matches, as was the general point of the chat being made in the first place.
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Dec 30, 2014 1:51 AM #1287843
Making fake names, there are a couple of reasons why I would find it wrong.

1.You ruin that name's reputation, so if someone ever makes an account under that fake user, now he has an unfair reputation from what you have said.
2.You are promoting bad behavior to other users, the chat is used to chat, not screwing around like that.
3.You can bully people without getting in trouble if the mods don't notice what you are doing.
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Dec 30, 2014 5:43 AM #1287911
1. No one actually cares about this ' reputation ' you speak of. First of all, that someone will choose a name I happened to chose for my joke is very mild. Second, who in his right mind would try to remember what the names of people I used are. I am constantly changing between friend and enemy with different people in SE, and doubt I'm the only one. Third, human memory is not that sharp anyways.
2. I don't see how bad behavior is being promoted. The chat is not used to correct grammar as well. Using correct grammar is not screwing around.
3. You can alert all the mods to spy on me and see that I do not mock anyone except the arrogant and stuck up kids who tick off everyone in the chat, and get mocked by everyone anyways. When I was warned, I stopped impersonating real people.

PS. I was banned today for 364 days and xander had to unban me.
And I am banned again (1yr) -___-. All I wrote was this : WyzDM(rubberducky) is streaming live: aiming for 100-0 record! Go here: http://www.twitch.tv/wyzdm .. -_-
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Dec 30, 2014 6:36 AM #1287922
I'm not a chat mod but I'd like to put in my two cents. First of all, if you put in "asenub" and I was ase, I'd be pretty mad. And IMO you're kind of attacking him so I think you would've deserved that ban anyway. Second, I'm guessing impersonating would promote bad behaviour since other people will try to impersonate different users and it will be harder for the mods to do their job as it's against the rules. Third, people can remember better than you think, if you try to make someone look bad by impersonating them, people who are decieved by it will think of whoever you impersonated as stupid, mean, etc. And fourth, rules are rules. That's just my opinion.
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Dec 30, 2014 9:47 AM #1287949
Quote from nutsophast
I'm not a chat mod but I'd like to put in my two cents. First of all, if you put in "asenub" and I was ase, I'd be pretty mad. And IMO you're kind of attacking him so I think you would've deserved that ban anyway. Second, I'm guessing impersonating would promote bad behaviour since other people will try to impersonate different users and it will be harder for the mods to do their job as it's against the rules. Third, people can remember better than you think, if you try to make someone look bad by impersonating them, people who are decieved by it will think of whoever you impersonated as stupid, mean, etc. And fourth, rules are rules. That's just my opinion.


^This pretty much. I like how you put Lelouch as your pic haha. Such Iron to the Knee.