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how would you suggest we make them cost efficient wyz?

use charrog water rush in DM
and then use fire charrog water in classic.

If it isn't worth the resources don't use them.
~Not Wyz

Make air spawn time 17s. Makes more sense think of eclipsor 20s and air 20s eclipsor>>>air. Add Tornado on spawn and it will be good. W/O Tornado, 1 Cycloid cannot take 1 Eclipsor (well, maybe on a long map with Protect it will be close) but with it's pretty well even.

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Make air spawn time 17s. Makes more sense think of eclipsor 20s and air 20s eclipsor>>>air. Add Tornado on spawn and it will be good. W/O Tornado, 1 Cycloid cannot take 1 Eclipsor (well, maybe on a long map with Protect it will be close) but with it's pretty well even.

You're MEANT to buy upgrades before getting out the unit, deads and albows are quite useless without upgrades too.

True. Thing is Cycloid costs significantly more than an eclipsor.

Point being 1 water + 1 air =/> 1 eclipsor;

Combos are supposed to be at least as powerful as their base unit composition. It doesn't make sense that Cycloid is weaker at AA than it's base units.*

*EDIT: w/o Tornado.

Here's another ability idea:
Cycloid can shoot?
Seems dumb but with some tweaks it could work?

Can this thread die already?

Stop offering changes to ele units until costs and resources are stabilized. It's dumb and not practical. Unless you want to continue paying 600+ gold for any combination that isn't a treature.

That's what I've been saying Cycloid costs 750+100 and can't take an Eclipsor and all it can do is melee so it should be able to take an Eclipsor. However; its melee is already very powerful hence the reason why we suggested to have Tornado on spawn with Hurricane or something with a wider radius and tiny bit more damage.

In the end given that we all essentially agree I second this thread being locked or whatnot.

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That's what I've been saying Cycloid costs 750+100 and can't take an Eclipsor and all it can do is melee so it should be able to take an Eclipsor. However; its melee is already very powerful hence the reason why we suggested to have Tornado on spawn with Hurricane or something with a wider radius and tiny bit more damage.

In the end given that we all essentially agree I second this thread being locked or whatnot.

Are you MustRemainSecret? :P Your strategies are the same as well....

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Are you MustRemainSecret? :P Your strategies are the same as well....

We don't know, it has to remain secret.