sex, censorship, drugs and violence

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Jul 24, 2008 5:55 PM #196967
well are they really as bad as people make them out to be. let's start with sex - it's a natural process. what diffence does the age at which you do it make? censorship (language) - a conversation between me and my mom went something like this:
me: "****ing hell!"
mom: "don't swear"
me: "why not? its only a word."
mom: "its the meaning of the word that matters"
me: "well you wouldnt think it as bad if i said 'oh sex!' or 'you masturbator!'"
she didnt know what to say. now drugs - its very simple to me. if people want to smoke themselves into a coma then its their problem. of course, i dont think they should allow cocaine or heroin. and last, violence - i really dont agree with violence, but i think the media and people in general overreact to violent crimes. i mean so what if someone was beaten up? they must have done something to attract the attention of the mugger. however, if it was a blatant cold blooded attack, then yeah definitely find them and put themin prison, but dont make such a big fuss about it.

i realise lots of threads about this stuff have been made before, but lets bundle them all into one. please discuss your opinions on these.
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Jul 24, 2008 6:45 PM #197001
Sex is natural, kids should be taught about it, not shielded from it. However, they must be responsible with it. Besides that, I think people expect that adults know how to treat sex a lot better, when often that's proven wrong.

Profanity - These words are a taboo, not necessarily offensive. Some people are offended by them, and by using them, you are disrespecting them, even IF it is something stupid to get worked up over.

Drugs - This applies to both legal and illegal drugs, and both harm you. Although I don't see why LSD and Weed are illegal when Alcohol isn't. Aside the fact that the government makes money off alcohol.

Violence - I don't know, we don't have a justice system, we have a LEGAL system. You're not necessarily guilty or innocent, but you can still receive penalties. Besides, it's hard for a society to live on with cold blooded violence. And if someone provokes you without hurting you, then you attack them, I believe it's still your fault..
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Jul 24, 2008 6:57 PM #197011
Drugs are in everything, from your morning coffee to your can of coke, however illegal drugs should be taught that they are bad, society does this.

Sex is natural, kids should be taught more about it and should know that it is not bad, society has failed on this subject.

Violence is natural, but not necessary, and should be discouraged, but not as heavily disciplined, society has half done the right stuff on this matter, and half failed badly.

And swearwords, hmmmm .... they were all made to express disgust and hate towards another being, or for a giggle, but now-a-days with swearwords in every sentence, I am sick of hearing them, get some new swears, restrict their use, and for gods sake, stop allowing your 8 year old kids to swear at older people, because they will be beaten into a bloody pulp, so stop teaching them those freaking words, nao.

So, thats my opinion.
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Jul 24, 2008 8:15 PM #197058
Drugs are bad.. mmkay..
Sex is good.. mmkay..
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Jul 24, 2008 8:17 PM #197063
Southpark is shit, mmmkay?
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Jul 24, 2008 8:27 PM #197077
This debate is shit. There's 4 topics, which are all poorly introduced. Everyone's just posting their opinion about all 4 at the same time without any actual conversation/debate.


Not to mention this was all started because you think you outsmarted your mom.
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Jul 24, 2008 10:49 PM #197249
well arent you the person to criticise without knowing anything about me? who cares if they're poorly introduced? im a bad debater. doesnt stop other people from contributing with their thoughts. i agree we need more intellect in this thread now. and yeah, i made a whole thread about drugs, sex, violence and language just because i made my mom look like a douche and decided to announce it publicly on the internet. well done you for noticing that.
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Jul 24, 2008 11:42 PM #197313
Quote from Dudeman.
This debate is shit. There's 4 topics, which are all poorly introduced. Everyone's just posting their opinion about all 4 at the same time without any actual conversation/debate.


Not to mention this was all started because you think you outsmarted your mom.


Quoted for truth.

Jrockpunk1, don't fight with the Dudemanz, he always has harpoons on hand, even though he could pwn you without them. You may be able to outsmart poor mommy, but not the Dudemanz.
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Jul 24, 2008 11:54 PM #197323
who are you again?
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Jul 25, 2008 2:56 AM #197422
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well are they really as bad as people make them out to be. let's start with sex - it's a natural process. what diffence does the age at which you do it make?
Okay, imagine you are about 45 years old. Peaceful nice wife, and a nice little daughter who is 14. She just came home doing her home work, but then she goes to Johnny's house to **** his nice hard cock, and sucking him down. Then they do it hawt and doggy style, oh yeah. Then 3 months later she is pregnant.

Yeah, w/e, twas going to happen anyway, right?
censorship (language) - a conversation between me and my mom went something like this:
me: "****ing hell!"
mom: "don't swear"
me: "why not? its only a word."
mom: "its the meaning of the word that matters"
me: "well you wouldnt think it as bad if i said 'oh sex!' or 'you masturbator!'"
she didnt know what to say.
The reason why you made this thread, I'm guessing. Swear words show disrespect. That's why you get in trouble if you use them. Again, your 14 year old daughter, but at age 5. Imagine she goes up to you and says "****ing hell, cockface". What would you say?
now drugs - its very simple to me. if people want to smoke themselves into a coma then its their problem. of course, i dont think they should allow cocaine or heroin.
Um...isn't that already happened? and last, violence - i really dont agree with violence, but i think the media and people in general overreact to violent crimes. i mean so what if someone was beaten up? they must have done something to attract the attention of the mugger.
Imagine, you said "Hey, thats a kinda crappy bike dude". Then you get beaten up and almost killed. Yourright, no big deal. however, if it was a blatant cold blooded attack, then yeah definitely find them and put themin prison, but dont make such a big fuss about it.
Yeah.

i realise lots of threads about this stuff have been made before, but lets bundle them all into one. please discuss your opinions on these.
**** you, sir.

He is your worst night mare.

Btw, responses in bold.
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Jul 25, 2008 8:17 AM #197575
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Originally Posted by jrockpunk1 Image
well are they really as bad as people make them out to be. let's start with sex - it's a natural process. what diffence does the age at which you do it make?
Okay, imagine you are about 45 years old. Peaceful nice wife, and a nice little daughter who is 14. She just came home doing her home work, but then she goes to Johnny's house to **** his nice hard cock, and sucking him down. Then they do it hawt and doggy style, oh yeah. Then 3 months later she is pregnant.
*ok i can see your point but i couldnt care too much, just tell her to use protection*

Yeah, w/e, twas going to happen anyway, right?
censorship (language) - a conversation between me and my mom went something like this:
me: "****ing hell!"
mom: "don't swear"
me: "why not? its only a word."
mom: "its the meaning of the word that matters"
me: "well you wouldnt think it as bad if i said 'oh sex!' or 'you masturbator!'"
she didnt know what to say.
The reason why you made this thread, I'm guessing. Swear words show disrespect. That's why you get in trouble if you use them. Again, your 14 year old daughter, but at age 5. Imagine she goes up to you and says "****ing hell, cockface". What would you say?
*1 - yes i really made a whole thread for that didnt i? and that isnt what i meant. if someone came up to you and said that but replacing those words with "idiot" and jizz missiler (cant think of anything else) it would still be as bad, but with no swearing. i mean in general conversations. like i said that to a game i was playing.
now drugs - its very simple to me. if people want to smoke themselves into a coma then its their problem. of course, i dont think they should allow cocaine or heroin.
Um...isn't that already happened?
* not over here it's not. you can still be prosecuted for smoking or dealing canabbis (sp)
and last, violence - i really dont agree with violence, but i think the media and people in general overreact to violent crimes. i mean so what if someone was beaten up? they must have done something to attract the attention of the mugger.
Imagine, you said "Hey, thats a kinda crappy bike dude". Then you get beaten up and almost killed. Yourright, no big deal.
*actually no it wouldnt be. yeah the person should be prosecuted but i dont think it should go all over the news etc, especially because if they did that for everyone that had something like that happpen to them, it would take a hella lot of time to do.
however, if it was a blatant cold blooded attack, then yeah definitely find them and put themin prison, but dont make such a big fuss about it.
Yeah.

i realise lots of threads about this stuff have been made before, but lets bundle them all into one. please discuss your opinions on these.
**** you, sir.
*quite clearly you are the one to want to **** me



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Jul 25, 2008 8:51 AM #197589
Quote from jrockpunk1
well are they really as bad as people make them out to be. let's start with sex - it's a natural process. what diffence does the age at which you do it make? censorship (language) - a conversation between me and my mom went something like this:
me: "****ing hell!"
mom: "don't swear"
me: "why not? its only a word."
mom: "its the meaning of the word that matters"
me: "well you wouldnt think it as bad if i said 'oh sex!' or 'you masturbator!'"
she didnt know what to say. now drugs - its very simple to me. if people want to smoke themselves into a coma then its their problem. of course, i dont think they should allow cocaine or heroin. and last, violence - i really dont agree with violence, but i think the media and people in general overreact to violent crimes. i mean so what if someone was beaten up? they must have done something to attract the attention of the mugger. however, if it was a blatant cold blooded attack, then yeah definitely find them and put themin prison, but dont make such a big fuss about it.

i realise lots of threads about this stuff have been made before, but lets bundle them all into one. please discuss your opinions on these.


The "its only a word" argument is flawed. You didn't use it because it was another word, you used it because its offensive, and because of its shock value. Its like trying to play off the responsibility of the words you use. "I didn't mean any offense by flipping you off, I was just raising one of my fingers." No. you do it because its offensive and because of the meaning behind it. I bet your mom didn't reply because you made yourself look like an immature moron, and she didn't want to rub it in your face. Then you go around and say you "made her look like a douche". Seriously, kid. Grow up.

People overreact to violent crimes? I bet you have never even been in a seriously dangerous situation, where your life is being threatened by someone who could take it from you. Maybe you should go see what thats like before you start acting all big and bad thinking people are overreacting. I don't know what you are thinking "people attract muggers?" Oh sorry for wearing nice clothes? How is that the victims fault at all? Its the job of the news to inform us on things that happen around the city we live in, so that we may be informed and make informed decisions on things.
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Jul 25, 2008 11:15 AM #197629
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Although I don't see why Weed is* illegal when Alcohol isn't.
Come to the Netherlands, and smoke pot all day long! (Actually it's only the tourists who smoke it, but weed is legal here...)


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i agree we need more intellect in this thread

Starting with.. you?
The way you post makes my eyes bleed. Seriously, use capitals. Maybe blanco lines. Cuz it's hard to read.

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I bet your mom didn't reply because you made yourself look like an immature moron, and she didn't want to rub it in your face. Then you go around and say you "made her look like a douche".


He probably never said anything to his mom.
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Jul 25, 2008 11:42 AM #197648
He probably never said anything to his mom.[/QUOTE]

QFT.He probably made up that conversation with him and his mom just to make himself look "intelligent".
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Jul 25, 2008 11:58 AM #197664
Well. All I can say is that parents should teach there kids about sex at a mature age (13-15) And they should tell them about Condoms and STDS.

Drugs and Alchohal. Don't really care about this subject because no matter what we do its going to happen anyways.

Violence. Don't really care either, it always happens nothing can stop it. When we try to stop it more violence happens. Thats why people carry around guns now. And when they use their gun on someone, someone will use their gun on that person. Its a never-ending cycle. The only thing we can do is try and stop it but fail at the process. Thats why we now have S.W.A.T because the police don't do squat against criminals that are armed. Like such.

In Semtember 1993, two armed bank robbers with AK-47s that had Drum Magazines and Armour pierceing rounds robbed a bank at Hollywood, They had body armor and had many other weapons in their get-away car. Cops were shot, but none died, but the robbers did die. One robber aparently commited suicide, but since one cop shot him while the robber shot, no one knows. Somewhat over 1000 bullets were fired. Around 13 civilians were shot but not killed.

We couldn't predict that, nor could we stop that. This same thing will happen again sometime in the future.

EDIT: I forgot one subject.

Censorship- Nothing we can do about it, the Goverment is runend by a bunch of people who think 'damn' is a bad word (which it is, but only in certant sentances). The FCC will never let anything go on air that is apparenlty porno-graphic or too violent. Most people can already guess what the people say, even if its censored. As such.

F*** you John.
F*** you right back Phil.
You mom is a B****.
So is yours, John.

Now most of you can guess what I'm saying. If an adult hears F*beep*k he will know what it means. If a kid hears that, he will most likley not know what it means. But when the kid gets older he will know what it means and will start saying it. We can't censor realitty, if a girl undresses on camera live we can't block that. If we could block it that quickly then yeah we could. Really I think America is just over reacting about the entire thing. Parents should chose what their kids watch.