• Increase dead gold cost by 50?
  
• Increase base range of Air and Fire
  

Quote from Skeletonxf

Okay I've had a group of ideas (most of them have been mentioned by others at some point but together they might just work)
Any ideas?

The plan: To make ele early game more engaging for both players

Earth queue time raised to 6 sec
Earth morph time halved to 2 sec
Earth stun duration nerfed
Earth attack speed buffed
Earth cost buffed to 100 gold
Transform nerfed to 50 gold (50 gold to make a chompler from an earth)
Air/Castle Air attack speed buffed
Air/Castle Air damage per attack nerfed

With all of these together, ele is less able to bring out huge earth armies, but the earths it can bring out for fighting with are cheaper and can actually stun opposing units, so stun locking will be a real thing, ele will be able to recycle earths for fighting without such huge losses if a retreating earth gets sniped, and most importantly ele won't be able to spend as much gold in the early game. This will mean ele can build up gold faster into the match to bring out fires and airs - much like order gradually going from sword spam against chaos to having an eco that can support sworcher.

The suggested air changes will 1) mean archers don't get insta deded under ele's castle
2) airs will be more reliable at sniping archers without them dealing better damage on archers. This way a 1:00 to 2:00 micro game of earth+air versus archers will be worth trying for ele because the airs will be able to land bolts more reliably.

Taking away ele's ability to spam chomplers as fast and nerfing the CA's insta ded archer will take away defensive power from ele in early game, but the earth and air changes should allow ele more reward for fighting - attacks will connect and fighting earths will be cheap so able to act as fodder more easily in those initial stages of the game.

'Oh but this will crush ele's eco!'
Hopefully not, because the 50 gold for chomplers that will be spent on retreating earths will be a delayed cost on the earth, ie, the 50 gold you need for the chompler will be paid later into the game when you have an eco more able to cope with the gold costs. By delaying that 50 gold ele is encouraged to use the earth before making it into a miner because delaying the gold cost means ele can pay the cost later when the cost is a lower % of gold income/sec.

Quote from Skeletonxf

Okay then. Here's plenty

Quote from Superterry

I didn't exactly like the idea of increasing air attack rate, because it would be harder for bombs to reach them. Yet Chaos can waste more bombs trying to kill an air than an archer, due to Air's 400 gold cost. X_X

Also I already got most of yours. :P

Quote from DragonArcherZ

Decrease Earth to Chompler animation to 2 seconds
Decrease Earth gold price to 100

> grats on making ele eco even more op.

Threads like this don't work because varying skills, understandings and playstyles will all inevitably crash.

Quote from funnyfingers

I think a time reduction on the upgrade rage could would be nice as it is only good for early game, after wards almost useless ,of course it is my fault they raged right into bombs, but if feel rage upgrade is just so under used maybe you could debuff its length of use if you put a time reduction on getting it out sooner.

Quote from WyzDM

smh at this thread. Nothings gonna come about this...