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Jan 28, 2016 9:14 PM #1433828
You're welcome. If anyone is interested it's 1000 posts to become privileged.
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Jan 28, 2016 10:17 PM #1433843
WOOO! More inbox space! Thanks a lot, Jeff. c: (And so fast at responding, too. :O)
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Feb 5, 2016 4:22 AM #1435462
All hail the 200+ inbox space.
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Feb 5, 2016 4:27 AM #1435464
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I've updated the stored message allotments as follows:

Admins, Mods, Super Mods, Core Team Mods: 10,000 (it's always been this way, one of the groups had it set to 0 for some reason so I'm just normalizing these)
Ex-Mods: 500 (as thanks for past help)
Privileged Regular Members: 300
Regular Members: 200

If this causes too much stress on the server I may have to scale it back.


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Feb 5, 2016 11:06 AM #1435507
If someone who has a long signature PMs you, the See More thingy doesn't work. It shows the long signature.
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Feb 5, 2016 11:34 AM #1435508
Ai will then be super privileged regular member thanks to his endless contribution.
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Feb 5, 2016 5:15 PM #1435657
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If someone who has a long signature PMs you, the See More thingy doesn't work. It shows the long signature.


It's not supposed to since the PM will only have one signature at a time. I added it to the forums to prevent threads from being too tall and taking for ever to scroll down.
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Feb 5, 2016 5:21 PM #1435666
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It's not supposed to since the PM will only have one signature at a time. I added it to the forums to prevent threads from being too tall and taking for ever to scroll down.


is it possible to allow spoilers to bypass the signature size limits after they're expanded? then it's kinda opt-in to see huge sigs
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Feb 5, 2016 5:48 PM #1435678
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is it possible to allow spoilers to bypass the signature size limits after they're expanded? then it's kinda opt-in to see huge sigs


You mean like, if someone has a spoiler in their sig above the fold and I click to open it, it will automatically expand the signature? I could look at doing that, wouldn't be too hard.
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Feb 5, 2016 6:36 PM #1435697
Hey Jeff, sorry if this is a repeat question. But is the 'Like' button option still going to be a part of the new Stickpage format? I remember you talking about it earlier but I'm not sure if you had reached a conclusion yet?
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Feb 5, 2016 6:49 PM #1435701
I added that signature functionality. It will expand the signature only if it's collapsed and you click a spoiler that's visible. Once it's open you have to click "Show Less" to collapse the signature again. I did it this way so that a signature with multiple spoilers wont collapse the signature every time you hide one. Check out Xate's current sig in this thread for an example.

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Hey Jeff, sorry if this is a repeat question. But is the 'Like' button option still going to be a part of the new Stickpage format? I remember you talking about it earlier but I'm not sure if you had reached a conclusion yet?


Yeah some people were asking about this recently. I think it's a good idea, I haven't decided 100% on how I'll implement it - I'm torn between using likes, upvotes/downvotes, or some kind of label where it could represent how people feel about a post more specifically (Like this post, Helpful post, Garbage post, Disagree with post, etc.). I'll do something, unless some people have a problem with a system like that in general in which case I'm open to discussion. I know some people think "likes" are impersonal and can prevent discussion but at the same time they can also promote more feedback from users who otherwise would do or say nothing. I think I'd rather go ahead with an implementation and let the data dictate whether or not that feature stays.
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Feb 5, 2016 6:58 PM #1435704
I'll give you my opinion. I don't know if downvotes are the way to go because I think it might sometimes discourage people from expressing themselves clearly due to fear that they will be publicly downvoted (which is akin to ridicule). But I do think the 'like' system could be really useful. Especially because people wouldn't feel the need to quote something anymore just to say "Lol that was funny" or "Good point dude" and I also think its a good way of new members warming up to each other. I also think it could be invaluable to the animation section or the RHG gang or the writers lounge. A lot of people don't take time out to give some CnC or feedback, but clicking the 'like' button would be an easy way of showing approval, and over time, we would know which the most popular animations or animation styles are. It will also provide encouragement to creators when their RHGs or Animations or Stories get 'likes' as opposed to some who get absolutely no feedback on their work.
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Feb 5, 2016 7:34 PM #1435725
I agree with Nish.

Don't do any downvotes or anything like that...keep it just positive. Obviously, if you don't like something...you didn't...like it. Self-explanatory there. But deliberately downvoting can -- except within very small groups of friends -- become quickly discouraging to people who post, while at the same time encouraging haters and trollers.
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Feb 6, 2016 9:36 PM #1436061
So, only up-votes? Might as well not have both.
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Feb 6, 2016 10:36 PM #1436067
Those are all good points that I will have to consider. I appreciate the feedback! I'd like to take some time in the near future to examine the data behind each system's effect on a community if I can, hopefully I can find some published articles about it. I know upvotes/downvotes are contentious on popular sites that use them like Reddit, so I have some insight to that kind of thing already just by reading comments on there. I also need to decide how I'm going to set up ranking for the different media that the new site will accept, since the portal system will have animations, games, literature & comics which a simple like-only system is not good for due to the requirement of ranking content. They will need to be separated in the database. I've read articles from YouTube engineers about why they dropped the 5-star ranking system at YouTube, so I'm aware of the comparison between like/dislike and 1-5. I still need to look in to all the options at my disposal, though. While finalizing the database design of the new SP I'm also building a lot of tools that let us do more in-depth analysis on the community than is currently possible, so maybe during the beta I will do A/B testing or periods with each to see not only how people feel about each but also what the data shows.
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