One Shot: Blaze

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Apr 27, 2015 6:02 AM #1353959
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By the way, it's rare that i do fights when i draw, is there any tips on how to make it dynamic?


I suggest you to search a comic/manga (no anime) about fighting (they're quite common) and see by yourself what and how do they draw to make it dynamic
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Apr 27, 2015 6:29 AM #1353967
Well honestly, I dunno why you're giving a set amount of pages when you don't have a definitive idea for the plot yet. If anything, you're adding unnecessary constraints. If the finished plot only really calls for 40 pages being the most optimal number for it to be as entertaining as possible without feeling drawn out, are you going to stretch it to 60 pages just because that's the number you set in the beginning and you have to stick to it? Even if it compromises the integrity of your comic? That's pretty idiotic, I agree that you shouldn't be projecting length without having all the information that would be necessary to know how long it should be in reality. That's like if someone wrote a pitch for a feature length film that only included some basic plot points and no characters and the director decided right off the bat that the movie was going to be 3 hours long. He could potentially only get 2 hours worth of content that he'll then have to stretch and belabor to get it to fit into his guidelines
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Apr 27, 2015 6:57 AM #1353982
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That kind of behaviour is usually innate into all of us, but usually you should have the decency to not say anything about it to not offend or anything


I wonder which one of you is being the better guy: The one who openly declares the unrealistic expectations of an overambitious work, or the one who decides to keep it to himself forever thinking that this place births failures without so much as an attempt to point them in the right direction. You're implying that everyone on this site frowns upon failworks but will do nothing for the sake of not being "offensive", when your own passive-aggressive inability to say anything is in itself an act of ignorance.

generalZ is making unrealistic expectations. It's not a crime for Arch to point those things out. Goes the same for any noob who comes in with an 'idea' and nothing more.


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You just openly admitting it doesn't put you under a good light -_-


How? I don't think anything Arch said was ever intended to put himself into any kind of position. Arch is expressing his opinion and mild concern. The only evidence of him being a bad guy is because you are shoving him under a 'bad light'.
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Apr 27, 2015 8:09 AM #1354010
It's not going to affect me regardless of if this ends up being finished or not. My point was simply to make realistic goals and try to achieve them, because I've got a nasty reputation for trying to do shit without realizing how much work is involved and it typically always ends up the same. I'm speaking from experience in this department. Whether you take my advice or not is up to you and it's not like I'm going to criticize you for not taking it :/
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Apr 27, 2015 8:09 AM #1354011
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I wonder which one of you is being the better guy: The one who openly declares the unrealistic expectations of an overambitious work, or the one who decides to keep it to himself forever thinking that this place births failures without so much as an attempt to point them in the right direction. You're implying that everyone on this site frowns upon failworks but will do nothing for the sake of not being "offensive", when your own passive-aggressive inability to say anything is in itself an act of ignorance


I also wonder something: is better to just blatantly underestimate someone's project by putting up generalizing and vague negative critics or is it better to actually ask questions to the one holding up the project about his organization so that you may help him if needed and/or to directly help him by answering his questions in a proper way?

About the innate behaviour thing, I admit I put it wrongly: everyone has usually this kind of behaviour (it's human), but there is a big line between putting it out bluntly and act like a dick without giving no help at all and instead not saying anything and actually checking if he really has unrealistic expectations before judging, so that you may help him into the actual making of it by giving out suggestions. But even if he has "unrealistic expectations", you should give out your blunt dry judgement only AFTER he admits/proves the project failed (Findood still surprised me with his Arch Nemesis)

PS
Not remembering giving the label of "criminal" to Arch, but the one of "under a bad light" surely, since it was (and still is) bad behaviour

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You're a ninja, Arch
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Apr 27, 2015 8:14 AM #1354014
It's not bad behavior to be the realistic person in the room. You must be from that generation that believes everyone deserves a medal just for showing up.
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Apr 27, 2015 8:46 AM #1354019
Dipi, being a dick and being a 'bad guy' (by definition a person who discourages works) are 2 different things.

I can be snarky and helpful:

http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?93706-RHG-Vs-Mortal-Kombat-Kollab&p=1350668&viewfull=1#post1350668
http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?93706-RHG-Vs-Mortal-Kombat-Kollab&p=1350673&viewfull=1#post1350673

despite knowing that it's probably going to fail for its restrictions and overambitiousness. Though that was then. It's picking up steam because of new management but I still say it won't fly.

Doesn't mean it won't just because I said it wouldn't.
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Apr 27, 2015 4:35 PM #1354190
That escalated quickly o.o
Look Hewitt, both of them are fine. They are not rude or anything of the sort because of what they said.
They expressed their opinions and I accept that.

About the pages, as I already said multiple times, I might have less or more pages to it. I wont stretch the story or something to make it longer. If the final project has 40 pages then thats fine, i just dont want 10 or 20 which would kinda suck to be honest...

I would also appreciate it if the conversations would stay on topic... having an argument over what someone said is simply stupid and off topic.
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Apr 27, 2015 11:10 PM #1354326
These conversations are all about your story at their core so I'll allow it, it's not exactly off topic
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Apr 28, 2015 1:37 AM #1354368
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These conversations are all about your story at their core so I'll allow it, it's not exactly off topic


Oki then :3
Btw, i have now finished 13 pages, screenshots will start to come in soon...
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May 9, 2015 2:33 AM #1358925
UPDATE: I did up to page 22 in the one shot, but since my computer is getting fixed real soon i will wait to scan them on my computer instead of someone else's!
Same for the screenshots...... I will probably post 2 of them when i scan the 9 new pages...

I am pretty sure i'll make it around 50 pages! I got a lot of content I can include.
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May 9, 2015 2:41 AM #1358929
Yeah generalZ, a screenshot would be nice. :D
Nice going on getting the page 22 though. Let's see if you can reach the finish line for the whole process here.
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May 9, 2015 3:14 AM #1358946
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Yeah generalZ, a screenshot would be nice. :D
Nice going on getting the page 22 though. Let's see if you can reach the finish line for the whole process here.


yay someone likes me :D
they are just the sketches though... we definitly see the drawings getting better as the pages go on XD
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May 10, 2015 10:09 PM #1360080
UPDATE:
I have added 3 screenshots.
Do remember that they are only sketches and so, thy mostly don't have backgrounds and an be a bit messy.
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May 22, 2015 6:53 PM #1364714
UPDATE: I am up to page 38 I finished the story and new screenshots will come rolin' in soon!