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Dec 25, 2013 8:26 AM #1129715
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i did dmt and saw some pretty crazy shit but there weren't any machine elves or anything.

however, i don't reject the possibility of being able to open some sort of communication channel between us and higher dimensional sentient entities. i haven't seen it myself (it's possible that i simply haven't "broken through" to that point yet) so i can't believe it in any certainty, but in my experience that's still very much a possibility. i like mckenna but i do take everything he says with a grain of salt. he's got some fascinating ideas but he was always... a little flaky, to say the least.


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Dec 25, 2013 11:37 AM #1129768
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Dec 25, 2013 12:09 PM #1129781
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i did dmt and saw some pretty crazy shit but there weren't any machine elves or anything.

however, i don't reject the possibility of being able to open some sort of communication channel between us and higher dimensional sentient entities. i haven't seen it myself (it's possible that i simply haven't "broken through" to that point yet) so i can't believe it in any certainty, but in my experience that's still very much a possibility. i like mckenna but i do take everything he says with a grain of salt. he's got some fascinating ideas but he was always... a little flaky, to say the least.


Sounds possible. However there's no valid reason/evidence to think that. Personal experiences from people don't count. That's about the lowest source/standard of evidence I can even think of.

I would like to think that there's a distinct possibility that our world is just a simulation (for example a computer simulation being carried out by entities in the 'real' universe). Although, as of yet, there's no reason to think that's true.
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Dec 25, 2013 1:15 PM #1129800
Scarecrow like what was it like with all the mushrooms and weed and stuff. What did you see?
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Dec 25, 2013 3:04 PM #1129839
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Sounds possible. However there's no valid reason/evidence to think that. Personal experiences from people don't count. That's about the lowest source/standard of evidence I can even think of.

I would like to think that there's a distinct possibility that our world is just a simulation (for example a computer simulation being carried out by entities in the 'real' universe). Although, as of yet, there's no reason to think that's true.


Look at this 3-dimensionally limited essence of consciousness and laugh!
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Dec 25, 2013 4:06 PM #1129876
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Sounds possible. However there's no valid reason/evidence to think that. Personal experiences from people don't count. That's about the lowest source/standard of evidence I can even think of.

I would like to think that there's a distinct possibility that our world is just a simulation (for example a computer simulation being carried out by entities in the 'real' universe). Although, as of yet, there's no reason to think that's true.


sadly this is exactly the sort of thing that by definition we cannot hope to be able to provide a scientific proof to others for. all that there is are personal experiences. however... if we really want to know, we are perfectly capable of digging and finding out for ourselves. that's what i'm doing; i don't expect to find any "valid" proof. i do these things as a science experiment to explore the nature of my consciousness and find my own truths.

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Scarecrow like what was it like with all the mushrooms and weed and stuff. What did you see?


i'll talk about mushrooms first because that's where most of my experience is.

that's a hard question to answer, because seeing is only a small portion any experience. when you talk about psychedelics as something that you just "see things" on you don't really do them justice. on low doses, your sensory filters break down, allowing what your brain has deemed "unimportant" or "static" information to pour into you unmodified. colours become more bright. sound becomes more rich. touch becomes more of a connection. you become more aware of yourself, your surroundings, and your deep underlying connection to them. at average doses, all senses are altered (or perhaps filtered even less such that they now appear alien?) and reality takes on new meanings. even if you come to the conclusion that these are just sensory hallucinations, they still raise serious questions about the nature of consciousness and perception. as the dosage increases, thought and reason become useless as time itself ceases to exist to you. you are pulled into the here and now, in which there is no time to think. the infinite within every moment becomes apparent to you. senses seem to dissolve as you become one with the experience; or perhaps the experience becomes one with you? an all-sense-encompassing mirror of your consciousness of sorts. intuition and feelings become the only method you have to comprehend what you are experiencing. because of this it is hard for me to describe any more.

the experience of a strong dose is not for the faint of heart. it has the potential to throw everything you know about life, death, existance and reality into question.

but i totally recommend you try it at least once 10/10 good life lessons



as for weed, it's okay. it gets me high, makes me chill, numbs my pain, makes me sleepy, and gives me the munchies. it's considerably less interesting (but useful at times).
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Dec 26, 2013 8:02 AM #1130360
You know scarecrow sometimes I try to focus really hard to try to capture every noise around me. It makes me realize how hectic the world is and how small the part is that I perceive.
Anyway, this sounds truly amazing.
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Dec 26, 2013 8:35 AM #1130370
The world isn't hectic at all though.
Cities are. People are.
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Dec 26, 2013 9:09 PM #1130674
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Dec 27, 2013 1:46 AM #1130756
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You know scarecrow sometimes I try to focus really hard to try to capture every noise around me. It makes me realize how hectic the world is and how small the part is that I perceive.
Anyway, this sounds truly amazing.


yeah, and with that in mind i can point out that the experience initially is extremely similar to meditation. which makes me wonder if the deeper experience is linked to meditation also. my suspicion is that psychedelics act as like a "forced shortcut" or a tool for "proof of concept" of the depths that meditation can reach to. i don't think that psychedelics can ever replace meditation, but i do think they allow to you have a glimpse of what it's all about.
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Dec 27, 2013 2:22 AM #1130768
i have 2 grams of shrooms but i fucking PAID for 3.5 grams, which i should've gotten. so since i have to split it between my friend and i, we ended up just saving them because i'm worried it'll be such a low dose that we'll just feel stoned, which would suck. and it's been like two months now. i'm thinking about lemon tek-ing it. i wouldn't have even known we got ripped off if i didn't fuckin weigh it myself out of worry... why does this shit always happen to me, ugh
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You know scarecrow sometimes I try to focus really hard to try to capture every noise around me. It makes me realize how hectic the world is and how small the part is that I perceive.

reminds me of john cage's 4'33
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Dec 27, 2013 2:44 AM #1130786
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i have 2 grams of shrooms but i fucking PAID for 3.5 grams, which i should've gotten. so since i have to split it between my friend and i, we ended up just saving them because i'm worried it'll be such a low dose that we'll just feel stoned, which would suck. and it's been like two months now. i'm thinking about lemon tek-ing it. i wouldn't have even known we got ripped off if i didn't fuckin weigh it myself out of worry... why does this shit always happen to me, ugh


you can get the most out of it (albeit with shorter duration) by making it into tea (with lemon in it, so it's lemon tek at the same time) and by pre-dosing with a monoamine oxidase inhibitor (potentiating both effect and duration). i recommend using tea made with syrian rue seeds because it's highly effective and easy to get. using both of these methods two people can probably get a reasonable trip out of 2 grams.

if you want i can PM you the processes.
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Dec 27, 2013 2:49 AM #1130788
that sounds awesome, please do. Image
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Dec 27, 2013 4:51 AM #1130850
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i do these things as a science experiment to explore the nature of my consciousness and find my own truths.


How would you define your own truths? How are your truths different to the actual truth, and in what ways/areas?

Just wondering if you're searching for moral/personal truths, or something I would disagree with; scientific/environmental truths.
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Dec 27, 2013 9:16 AM #1130906
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How would you define your own truths? How are your truths different to the actual truth, and in what ways/areas?

Just wondering if you're searching for moral/personal truths, or something I would disagree with; scientific/environmental truths.


truths regarding consciousness and self, silence of the mind and awakening of the spirit, the existence of so-called 'god' or 'collective unconscious' (and through this the possibility to connect with other people, creatures, even trees and the earth itself), movement of qi, that sort of thing. there's definitely some crossover into physics and metaphysics as well, but to explore that field properly requires further research rather than just direct experience.