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Do the creators not care? Why won't they fix the KNOWN problems?

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Sep 3, 2015 10:36 PM #1401648
I am making this post because of the poor upkeep of this game.

No game is perfect and will always have it's bugs. It is the communities job to find and discuss the bugs and problems that arise and determine that a problem is indeed a problem. I believe the community does a very good job at this, when it comes to finding bugs and glitches. We discuss and confirm and wait for action to be taken.....

The next step is supposed to be change but that doesn't happen. There have been many well known problems that have popped up in the last couple of month. Many of these problems revolving around OOS errors and certain players abusing lag and other bugs within the game. Many players have discussed this on multiple threads but no action is taken. Along with the problems I just discussed there are a couple of gameplay changes that should be done like the Advanced Water healing problem that I figured out myself and the community agreed that the Water upgrade is impractical, yet no action is taken.

I understand a new game is being developed by the creators of Stick Empires but why should loyal players invest time and money into this game if the creators can't even invest enough time to fix the problems that the same loyal players have been complaining about for months?
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Sep 3, 2015 10:39 PM #1401650
Quote from ArchyBeatz
I am making this post because of the poor upkeep of this game.

No game is perfect and will always have it's bugs. It is the communities job to find and discuss the bugs and problems that arise and determine that a problem is indeed a problem. I believe the community does a very good job at this when it comes to finding bugs and glitches. We discuss and confirm and wait for action to be taken.....

The next step is supposed to be change but that doesn't happen. There have been making well known problems that have popped up in the last couple of month many of these problems revolving around OOS errors and certain players abusing lag and other bugs within the game. Many players have discussed this on multiple threads but no action is taken. Along with the problems I just discussed there are a couple of gameplay changes that should be done like the Advanced Water healing problem that I figured out myself and the community agreed that the Water upgrade is impractical, yet no action is taken.

I understand a new game is being developed by the creators of Stick Empires but why should loyal players invest time and money into this game if the creators can't even invest enough time to fix the problems that the same loyal players have been complaining about for months?


No action is taken because they are working on other projects. After Stick War Legacy and Stick War 3 are out, SE will get a ton of major updates. You just need to wait. No evidence is shown of the OOSes either, everyone has yet to record a live game of any lag abusing happening also.

They are technically working on 3 games at once here, after 2/3 are done, they update SE with major updates that it needs.
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Sep 3, 2015 10:52 PM #1401653
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No action is taken because they are working on other projects. After Stick War Legacy and Stick War 3 are out, SE will get a ton of major updates. You just need to wait. No evidence is shown of the OOSes either, everyone has yet to record a live game of any lag abusing happening also.

They are technically working on 3 games at once here, after 2/3 are done, they update SE with major updates that it needs.


You must be dumb? I stated in my post I understand that new games are being developed.... Read the post again if you didn't comprehend the first time.

No evidence of OOS? What are you talking about?
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Sep 3, 2015 11:22 PM #1401656
you, you think the maker can creat a game in 1 day ???
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Sep 3, 2015 11:35 PM #1401657
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you, you think the maker can creat a game in 1 day ???


That's an irrelevant and dumb question.
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Sep 3, 2015 11:38 PM #1401658
I never thought I would find myself agreeing with archy, but...
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Sep 3, 2015 11:38 PM #1401659
Just kidding :P
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Sep 4, 2015 12:09 AM #1401664
I understand that this may be frustrating, but unfortunately the game is on a current downfall. Come October they will be updating, I understand that it'd be nice if they fixed them now, but they do not because they are 'working on other projects'. They have released statements that they will work on SW3 much mroe -- which means bug patches prior to, durign, and after release of the game. Come October it is likely we will see patches coming in. As for the ele water problems I personally would rather see them totally remake elemental for sw3. As being completely gold based makes them very good in DM and very poor in Classic.
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Sep 4, 2015 12:29 AM #1401671
I'd rather have small consistent updates than large ones which will inevitably have new problems anyways.
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Sep 4, 2015 5:56 PM #1401783
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You must be dumb? I stated in my post I understand that new games are being developed.... Read the post again if you didn't comprehend the first time.

No evidence of OOS? What are you talking about?


The OOS screen does not show you vs the player that OOSed you. It shows you vs the player who you played the match before you got OOSed. So if I played Ase and then after that I played someone else who OOSed me, the OOS screen would show me vs Ase and not me vs the OOSer. This is why a simple OOS screen is not proof enough. That and the fact that there are other ways that OOS can happen, with one being an innocent glitch that happens before the match even begins.
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Sep 4, 2015 7:22 PM #1401800
Quote from ArchyBeatz
I am making this post because of the poor upkeep of this game.

No game is perfect and will always have it's bugs. It is the communities job to find and discuss the bugs and problems that arise and determine that a problem is indeed a problem. I believe the community does a very good job at this, when it comes to finding bugs and glitches. We discuss and confirm and wait for action to be taken.....

The next step is supposed to be change but that doesn't happen. There have been many well known problems that have popped up in the last couple of month. Many of these problems revolving around OOS errors and certain players abusing lag and other bugs within the game. Many players have discussed this on multiple threads but no action is taken. Along with the problems I just discussed there are a couple of gameplay changes that should be done like the Advanced Water healing problem that I figured out myself and the community agreed that the Water upgrade is impractical, yet no action is taken.

I understand a new game is being developed by the creators of Stick Empires but why should loyal players invest time and money into this game if the creators can't even invest enough time to fix the problems that the same loyal players have been complaining about for months?



Im sure the evidence gang will oppose this but he is right the upkeep of the game is poor and I have cancelled my membership. I personaly believe if we have united action against abusers like slipnot then CJ would have too take note. but no we have people that complain about slipnot not being IP banned but then defend CJ decision. If everyone said the same thing Slipnot would be banned by now.

Id like to see a dev show their face here. Maybe a devs Q and A answered daily or weekly (Id put up with monthly)

I personaly doubt that CJ cares about SE anymore why should he he makes enough money from it

No action is taken because they are working on other projects. After Stick War Legacy and Stick War 3 are out, SE will get a ton of major updates. You just need to wait. No evidence is shown of the OOSes either, everyone has yet to record a live game of any lag abusing happening also.

They are technically working on 3 games at once here, after 2/3 are done, they update SE with major updates that it needs.


R U CJ in disguise yar please stop please stop defending CJ does he pay you? We could have much more progress and improvement if he realised the community was annoyed with him. (and I have asked around I know a few people have issues with him)

CJ needs to fix the basic problems and devote time too the game or sell it on (too be honest if he wants to do whats best just give it away) I don't have much experience of Games but I will mention one example here

A game called Trove was developed new game small company but my god did they work hard they posted in community forums weekly updates big updates too and the game was much bigger and harder to change than Stickempires is.

it if doesn't improve soon im quieting a game that I still love I will join starcraft and lets be honest its superior in everyway.




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Sep 4, 2015 8:22 PM #1401811
The current system they are using to track OOS does not work.

They are just recording both parties that OOS. Players who've been around forever have accumulated far more OOS tickets than people who are actually OOSing.
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Sep 4, 2015 9:09 PM #1401822
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The current system they are using to track OOS does not work.

They are just recording both parties that OOS. Players who've been around forever have accumulated far more OOS tickets than people who are actually OOSing.


I disagree lets say person A B and C play each other A always oos

AvB OSS
AVC OSS
BvC NO OSS

Person A two oss
Person B one Oss
Person C oss

the person who oss will allways have more oss than the people they oos as if you don't oss you have a chance of playing a game that doesn't oss
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Sep 4, 2015 9:13 PM #1401823
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The OOS screen does not show you vs the player that OOSed you. It shows you vs the player who you played the match before you got OOSed. So if I played Ase and then after that I played someone else who OOSed me, the OOS screen would show me vs Ase and not me vs the OOSer. This is why a simple OOS screen is not proof enough. That and the fact that there are other ways that OOS can happen, with one being an innocent glitch that happens before the match even begins.


I understand how the OOS screen works perfectly fine and I understand that the way OOS is currently displayed it makes it's impossible to prove that someone is using the OOS glitch. What I'm saying fix the glitch all together.... Whether is player induced or just a random glitch... Fix it so it doesn't go OOS. If that is not possible restructure how the game handles OOS. Make it so it is documented that the game went OOS and against who. Make a draw column which will show how many OOS has occurred for each player. If the OOS is a genuine game glitch then every player should have around the same OOS percentage. It will be very easy to tell those who abuse this glitch. There are many different ways to fix the same problem. The reason why I am frustrated is because the creators aren't doing SHIT.

If they can't even handle this game professionally why would I invest time and money into a new game developed by the same people? Knowing this track record of abandoning games after a couple of years.

Second there needs to be gameplay changes. There hasn't been a patch in months and many will agree one is needed. I have asked CJ about a new patch... He said one is coming soon... That was like 2 months ago...
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Sep 4, 2015 9:45 PM #1401826
One reason I have refused to go premium is the above... why spend money when known issues, like wings flyover, slip, killerallah, OOSing, etc. have been known for a long long long time and nothing done to fix...
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