Maybe the devs can act as a jury :OO

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If theirs so much evidence then where is CJ? Or any dev?

Actually saw CJ on yesterday, I played him in a game of ML (that I won btw ;P) and discussed the situation, he hasn't been on the forums recently and didn't see this thread where slipnot talks about his membership hacks. Hopefully he will see soon and we can sort this out.

I agree with you Ase

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you still did not get my point.

Waseem got his accs banned before he made a change, that means, he still needed to be responsible for the mistakes that he made. It is irrelevant to the fact whether he came forward or not
Same case applied here, came forward with his head down did not mean he did not need to get punishment

You won't say a serial killer won't need to go to prison even he confessed his crime, right ??

Also , Os has been unbanned, how about UF ??

I get your point. But it's not our place to come up with punishment. Leave that to the devs. We are responding as a community.

And doesn't UF just make accounts claiming to be another player to get into all the clans and try to become a different person?

First off I'd like to give a shout out to Slipnot for being the Troll Of The Year. Much respect, keep up the good work.

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Maybe the devs can act as a jury :OO

Bruh... Come on... The Devs don't even handle gameplay problems and patches in a timely manner. How can you expect them to handle situations like this? Even if they did handle this problem, I have little faith that they will make the right decision mainly because I feel they are disengaged from the community.

Alternate made a post a couple of months ago about a SE council and majority of the players shot down his idea for some reason (probably because most players lack the ability to think for themselves and form their own opinions, Ase). I do believe that a jury/council should be made to deal with case by case situations like this.

With all that being said, I don't think Slipnot should be banned. He says he doesn't abuse lag and there's no proof... yeah yeah, whatever. The only thing he admitted to was a membership hack.

Now I don't know the means of which Slipnot gained free membership, but I am aware of a glitch that will allow the account to get membership without being charged. If he hacked to get his membership, by downloading and altering the game then he should be banned. But if he used a glitch then he shouldn't.

Bottom line the game has many issues and glitches which need to be fixed. The fact that there is one that is directly affecting how much revenue this game beings in speaks wonders about how much the Devs care.

Humans are going to take the path of least resistance. If you make possible and easy for players to get free membership then players are going to abuse it.

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First off I'd like to give a shout out to Slipnot for being the Troll Of The Year. Much respect, keep up the good work.



Bruh... Come on... The Devs don't even handle gameplay problems and patches in a timely manner. How can you expect them to handle situations like this? Even if they did handle this problem, I have little faith that they will make the right decision mainly because I feel they are disengaged from the community.

Alternate made a post a couple of months ago about a SE council and majority of the players shot down his idea for some reason (probably because most players lack the ability to think for themselves and form their own opinions, Ase). I do believe that a jury/council should be made to deal with case by case situations like this.

I mean. It was a joke.

Bruh. Take a joke.

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Alternate made a post a couple of months ago about a SE council and majority of the players shot down his idea for some reason (probably because most players lack the ability to think for themselves and form their own opinions, Ase). I do believe that a jury/council should be made to deal with case by case situations like this.

This wont achieve anything. How is a council going to ban the players? They cant. Only CJ can, and if he isnt engaged in the community like you said then its pointless.

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This wont achieve anything. How is a council going to ban the players? They cant. Only CJ can, and if he isnt engaged in the community like you said then its pointless.

The idea is to give that council the power to do it. Yeah, they can't do that if the devs would be unwilling to do it, but that's not the idea behind it.

For once I can say I can agree with a lot of Archy's points.

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If he hacked to get his membership, by downloading and altering the game then he should be banned. But if he used a glitch then he shouldn't.

I don't care if it is a glitch or a hack. Bottom line is the devs are not getting the money they should be getting from the memberships.

If slip pays for the memberships he illegally got, I would be okay with him getting a second chance. First he has to right the wrongs.

Also hate. You literally need to go into the game files in order to ip ban someone lol.

They aren't just going to hand someone over the game files.

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The idea is to give that council the power to do it.

We both know thats never going to happen.

You can easily make a method/function which accesses the server database to ban someone just in the same way the devs gave admin power for chat banning.

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This wont achieve anything. How is a council going to ban the players? They cant. Only CJ can, and if he isnt engaged in the community like you said then its pointless.

I'm not suggesting that the council physically go in and ban the players themselves. I'm just saying, once or twice a month the leader of the council should hand over a list of name that should be banned and the Devs should handle it. It certainly isn't as pointless as the multiple post and threads made (like this one) complaining about certain players cheating and urging the Devs to ban them. Also, we never know the outcome. We don't know if the Devs determined that Slipnot shouldn't be banned or if they just don't care. A council will clear all this up.

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I don't care if it is a glitch or a hack. Bottom line is the devs are not getting the money they should be getting from the memberships.

If slip pays for the memberships he illegally got, I would be okay with him getting a second chance. First he has to right the wrongs.

Also hate. You literally need to go into the game files in order to ip ban someone lol.

They aren't just going to hand someone over the game files.

Here you go being dumb again Ase, trying to discredit other peoples post.

You should care whether it was a glitch or a hack. If it's a glitch then the Devs kinda did it to themselves. That's like me dropping $4 on the ground and wanting to ban you for picking it up. Now if it was a hack, then it's like you reaching into my pocket and taking out $4 yourself and me wanting to ban you for that.

This is the only payed game I've ever played where it was possible to glitch free membership. That seems like one of the things they would have MADE sure they had right. I certainly wouldn't have made updates and new empires until I knew I was getting all my money. It doesn't matter if Slip pays it back or not. The Devs will continue to lose hundreds a month and thousands a year until they fix it.

As I stated above, the only thing that the council would be doing is reviewing evidence, voting, and sending the names and result to the Devs so they can ban them. I wouldn't expect the council to handle the process of ip banning someone, that's the Devs job.

Bottom line, nothing will be done unless a council of some sort is made. The Devs certainly won't read post like these and ban people themselves.

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First off I'd like to give a shout out to Slipnot for being the Troll Of The Year. Much respect, keep up the good work.



Bruh... Come on... The Devs don't even handle gameplay problems and patches in a timely manner. How can you expect them to handle situations like this? Even if they did handle this problem, I have little faith that they will make the right decision mainly because I feel they are disengaged from the community.

Alternate made a post a couple of months ago about a SE council and majority of the players shot down his idea for some reason (probably because most players lack the ability to think for themselves and form their own opinions, Ase). I do believe that a jury/council should be made to deal with case by case situations like this.

With all that being said, I don't think Slipnot should be banned. He says he doesn't abuse lag and there's no proof... yeah yeah, whatever. The only thing he admitted to was a membership hack.

Now I don't know the means of which Slipnot gained free membership, but I am aware of a glitch that will allow the account to get membership without being charged. If he hacked to get his membership, by downloading and altering the game then he should be banned. But if he used a glitch then he shouldn't.

Bottom line the game has many issues and glitches which need to be fixed. The fact that there is one that is directly affecting how much revenue this game beings in speaks wonders about how much the Devs care.

Humans are going to take the path of least resistance. If you make possible and easy for players to get free membership then players are going to abuse it.

We haven't looked at the point archy just mentioned if Slip can do it what stops others. The devs need to sort the root of the problems and fast.

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We haven't looked at the point archy just mentioned if Slip can do it what stops others. The devs need to sort the root of the problems and fast.

Meh they don't "need" to. It's only if they want to get money.

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Meh they don't "need" to. It's only if they want to get money.

If they really didn't want money then slip glitching member isn't be an issue.