I'm pointing out the risks. Voicing my opinion on the plan. Weighing the cons and the pros. Think about it; a probability that can lead to a mislynch and lose but securing a town, or a mafia lynched. It's not that I don't want the town to gain something; I'm considering the sacrifices made to get to the point where it leads to the town gets a benefit. Granted, if Error is a baddie, the town benefits at once.
imo, we should lynch not to secure a townie, but to kill a mafia. Your plan should not be a priority; it should be a last resort instead, after everything has been explored. Discussing with each other is our weapon.
SP Mafia VIIb: Avengers, Disassembled! | Endgame and Rant
Started by: Hewitt | Replies: 501 | Views: 59,458
Jan 4, 2016 7:50 PM #1428344
Jan 4, 2016 8:12 PM #1428352
I agree about discussion being a weapon but I think there should be a limit to how open the discussion is, "we" don't want to end up shooting ourselves in the foot. Points could be brought across the wrong way and then wrong conclusions could be drawn.
Jan 4, 2016 8:39 PM #1428354
Do you have an idea of what the limit should be? I don't get how to take what you just said and turn it into anything useful for the town
I'm all for lynching error to confirm Smile's identity but I don't have a good feeling about his odds of survival if we do so.
I'm all for lynching error to confirm Smile's identity but I don't have a good feeling about his odds of survival if we do so.
Jan 5, 2016 5:33 AM #1428451
I'm starting to lean towards Smile being town, or at the very least that Error and Smile aren't both mafia. This is the thought process, check it over to make sure I'm not insane.
As for Camila, one post in three days which didn't so a great deal to helping us, was being pressured by Mantha who turned up dead, wasn't really defending herself but had Raptor come in and redirect the conversation, AND she doesn't have the armour anymore.
#unvote Error
#vote Camila
I also have a feeling Arch is Ultron, but that's nothing more than a gut feeling...
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As for Camila, one post in three days which didn't so a great deal to helping us, was being pressured by Mantha who turned up dead, wasn't really defending herself but had Raptor come in and redirect the conversation, AND she doesn't have the armour anymore.
#unvote Error
#vote Camila
I also have a feeling Arch is Ultron, but that's nothing more than a gut feeling...
Jan 5, 2016 5:45 AM #1428452
Just a clarification in case anyone asks.
If whoever Cami sends her armor to (if she did send armor) takes a hit, the wearer won't know it...only Cami will.
If Cami dies when the armor is still active, nobody will ever know if it takes a hit or is used up.
That also implies that armor is #give-able even when it is used and that person will still be notified that they got it. But don't expect it to work if it is already used up. Remember, anyone who has Cami's Armor can #give it to another every night
If whoever Cami sends her armor to (if she did send armor) takes a hit, the wearer won't know it...only Cami will.
If Cami dies when the armor is still active, nobody will ever know if it takes a hit or is used up.
That also implies that armor is #give-able even when it is used and that person will still be notified that they got it. But don't expect it to work if it is already used up. Remember, anyone who has Cami's Armor can #give it to another every night
Jan 5, 2016 1:04 PM #1428523
#vote Camila
I'm convinced.
I'm convinced.
Jan 5, 2016 1:30 PM #1428527
#vote Camila
Good points. By the way, if its been three days, we should also ask Hewitt to prod her.
Good points. By the way, if its been three days, we should also ask Hewitt to prod her.
Jan 5, 2016 2:23 PM #1428539
She just posted yesterday.
#vote Camila
#vote Camila
Jan 5, 2016 6:08 PM #1428577
#vote Camila
We can always unvote if needed, so we should pile on the pressure
We can always unvote if needed, so we should pile on the pressure
Jan 5, 2016 6:14 PM #1428578
That's good and all, but we're getting close to danger here.
Jan 5, 2016 6:26 PM #1428582
Cami has been playing rather passively, and honestly I'm not sure she's uber capable of bringing too much to the table to help us out. While I don't agree with lynching someone because of how useless their ability might be (example being Exilement's claim to why lynching Quicksilver wouldn't have been an uber waste), I can justify lynching someone based on their capabilities of helping the town out in a logical discussion. Cami at the moment, in my opinion, lacks both considering she gave her armor away.
#Vote Camila
#Vote Camila
Jan 5, 2016 6:40 PM #1428585
I suggest someone to unvote. We're at 6 votes right now, and that's the amount that's needed to lynch. At least give her a chance to explain herself.
Jan 5, 2016 6:42 PM #1428586
speaking of, we still need to pay attention to Apex. he's posted a grand total of 3 times in the last 10 pages and one of them was just "aw didn't expect this" or something after N1. he's also agreed with the collective plan not to lynch anyone D1 and most recently suggested limiting what we discuss without any elaboration as to what we should be trying to avoid.
in short, he's literally contributed nothing to this game in the last 10 pages at least. he's either content with not posting in this thread (clear sign of mafia) or he's incapable of playing this game despite the fact that he keeps signing up for it.
edit: there's also this
if Camila turns out to be mafia then this is certainly not going to look good. a subtle suggestion that Camila is "the good guy" from someone who has absolutely no way of knowing this? doesn't make any sense to me.
in short, he's literally contributed nothing to this game in the last 10 pages at least. he's either content with not posting in this thread (clear sign of mafia) or he's incapable of playing this game despite the fact that he keeps signing up for it.
edit: there's also this
Quote from ApexNow, I know it sounds dirty but sometimes the good guy has to play dirty so what if she announced that she's giving the armour to one person but then gives it to someone else secretly.
if Camila turns out to be mafia then this is certainly not going to look good. a subtle suggestion that Camila is "the good guy" from someone who has absolutely no way of knowing this? doesn't make any sense to me.
Jan 5, 2016 7:29 PM #1428588
Its interesting that nobody took into account the fact that Hewitt said if Cami dies we will be absolutely in the dark as to when the armor is used. Even if the armor is used, someone could still give it to someone else with no knowledge that they were hit. Granted, we might know considering there would be one death during a night, but I feel like its still a risky move to make. Our only knowledge regarding the armor could be gone.
that said, I agree with the points made and I do think Cami needs to be put under fire to see what she says. I don't wanna vote because we've already gotten close to the limit (I say close because 2 of you ddidn't bold, so technically those votes don'tcount) and I'd like to hear how Camila defends herself before we lynch her. If she doesn't post within a few hours, I'mgonna cast my vote.
that said, I agree with the points made and I do think Cami needs to be put under fire to see what she says. I don't wanna vote because we've already gotten close to the limit (I say close because 2 of you ddidn't bold, so technically those votes don'tcount) and I'd like to hear how Camila defends herself before we lynch her. If she doesn't post within a few hours, I'mgonna cast my vote.
Jan 5, 2016 9:54 PM #1428615
Quote from Exile
if Camila turns out to be mafia then this is certainly not going to look good. a subtle suggestion that Camila is "the good guy" from someone who has absolutely no way of knowing this? doesn't make any sense to me.
LOL, this was so long ago. I don't even feel that way anymore.