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Smile came up with a plan, sure, but we all pretty much broke it apart

That's a very interesting way of putting it, especially since I only stopped pursuing the plan when Camila publicly revealed where the armor was. Literally only two people besides ErrorBlender showed opposition.

Youwishjellyfish, Exilement and others with passive night abilities have been able to contribute to the discussion without having to rely on night actions, right? Is coming up with a plan really the only way to contribute to the discussion? I really can't see why you're defending Camila, especially with flimsy reasoning. Are you really expecting us to hold her hand and tell her how she could help?

Camila could have started by pointer her fingers. Who was she suspicious of? How should she act on this suspicion? Should she just bring it up or should she try to find out more? How can she find out more? The answers to these questions depends on her as a player. Of course, that's what she should have at least done before the heat was put on her, because since she hasn't said much she can't prove or disprove her intentions on day 1, which would probably be helping her now. Honestly she should have been creative enough to figure out how she can contribute to the discussion. It's really surprising that you're defending her and you're using "what else are we expecting her to do?" as a reason, because it's flimsy and seems like a desperate attempt to help an ally.

EDIT: Lol welp I guess you guys covered everything I said as I was writing :/ Still, it seemed like a desperate attempt to help an ally for me so I'm not pulling my vote.

Well I just hate the whole "They haven't said enough in their defense" cop-out. I feel like her defense in itself is pretty flimsy, especially in these last two or three posts when I've prodded her a bit and have gotten nothing from it, but nobody looked at that. What I mean by that is you guys didn't really look at what she said, you looked at what she didn't say, because apparently she didn't say enough. That's what I didn't like.

In addition to that, I'm just trying to make sure we don't make a mistake here. I'm all for pressuring people with votes, but I feel like lynching right now is a bad idea, especially if we end up lynching an Avenger on accident. I guess I'm just not ready to jump on any sort of bandwagon until I'm sure about it.

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So, Boomer, your opinion?

My opinion on what, exactly? I've pretty much stated my opinion on Camila.

EDIT2: I feel like I'm really not making myself clear so I'll reiterate--I'm suspicious of Camila, too. I just am reluctant to lynch right now.

Well then, what is your opinion, Boomer, on.... everyone? Especially Smile, the supposedly Avenger.

Well, I mentioned this in my PM to Jelly a little while before, but Exile has kinda made me iffy for some reason. It could be a gut feeling, but the way he was aiming at Apex in the very beginning seemed a little bit suspicious to me in my opinion. Camila is a little suspicious, too, but I can't neglect the fact that if she is an Avenger then we'll not only lose one of our own, but the one person who will know when the armor is used. Arch seems to have some suspicion on him, and I think some of it is justified, but I also feel like we don't have much to go off of it for now. Everyone else seems fine to me, but lately Jelly's scum hunting seems to be the work of someone making sure he never gets heat on himself.

Ok, so far I can't really tell if I fully trust jelly Arch, the fact that there's no way we can tell if jelly is a good or bad guy unless someone tries to kills him bothers me. Then again I can't just go ahead and try to lynch him without a reason and so far his posts have been really helpful for the us. As for Arch, if I had to choose to vote for someone it'd either be Apex or Arch.

As for a strategy, (and if I understood this correctly) if someone who has the armor is attacked by someone I get to know it was used right.I'd like to confirm if I get any detailed information at all more than "the armor has been used" like names or something. In that case I think Error should pass the armor away to Smile, since is the ONE avenger we got confirmed and his ability is quite useful. He got blocked by Raptor for a reason, they do fear his ability. We could get Smile to check on Arch and take the might-be-ultron suspicions away. Then again, in order for this to work I also want to know if Ultron HAS to kill each night or if he can choose not to do it a certain night.

Edit: Also I'm really realllyyyy unsure about lynching anyone at this point. We have really small chances to actually get a bad guy if we just do it randomly.

I would like you to explain your unbiased opinions about why you think I am equally as suspicious as Apex if you had to vote for someone.

Mostly because some people seems to think you might be ultron?, I have no reasons to believe you're in the bad-guys' side if anything I'd vote for Apex because I haven't read something useful from him in some time, I know is kind of.... sa hipocrite from me to say that but now that I actually found time to contribute I'm doing my best here.

Sadly no one seems to be evil, which is pretty bad for us. Someone here is really good at lying and I can't figure out who is it just yet.

I can only think of YWJ having that gut feeling that I must be Ultron. So you don't really have any idea of how you're going to try to find out if someone seems suspicious or not, you're just going to float around and try to be more active because we had 4/6 votes to lynch you? Instead of coming up with idea and different scenarios and getting in touch with the people that you need to get in touch with to coordinate things with, you're going to passively float on and follow other people's voting habits because you cannot form any of your own?

You and Jelly both need to sit back and ask yourselves why you think that I am Ultron. Why would one of the most active players in this game who has been pm'ing people to help come up with plans, who has been actively engaged in discussion, and who is acting on their own judgement be Ultron? Ultron is the free for all guy. He has no team mates. Ultron's job is to sit back and try to be the least noticed person in the game. If his power is too great, he's going to be a target to get killed, so he's going to have to play selfishly. The most powerful abilities are Captain America, Thor, Scarlet Witch, and Black Widow. I do not think Ultron is (even after Thor dying and being reborn) either of those. Ultron is that guy that's voting with everyone else while giving a very small amount of information as to why so he doesn't draw too much attention to himself.

Also, just so everyone is tracking, we don't even need Camila to be alive to be able to tell if the Iron Man suit has been used. I'm pretty sure if we lynch Cami, and D3 rolls around with only one person dead and Exilement tells us that only one person targeted that guy, it would be safe to assume that the suit is used up. Boomerang is Thor, so we could easily check to see if he stunned anyone on that night, but if Exilement's passive works like I think it does, then it should be able to tell us if both the Doombots and Ultron killed the same target.

Just food for thought, ya know.

I see. Wait a second, what would happen if Smile were to target an attacking Mafia who is stunned?

Excusee meee, I did offer some idea. I'm like, actually trying to come up with new things that haven't been put on the table. If ultron is the ome to sit back and just float around why dont you point fingers at apex then. I still think I can be useful and provide info or opinions.

The only reason of why I was inactive until now it was because I was busy to actually stop and give each post a deep read in order to come up with a strategy to offer. I know you all are paranoid about the bad guys because of the last game, but I literally don't really know what else can I offer to you guys, if you lynch me we'll just lose another avenger and will still have no clues about who are the bad guys here. Personally I don't really want to force a random lynch because of how bad it can backfire on us, tho if most of you decide otherwise there's not much I can do. I just really wanna stay alive for as long as possible to help out and provide as much info as I can.

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I see. Wait a second, what would happen if Smile were to target an attacking Mafia who is stunned?

Pretty sure Smile wouldn't get anything since technically the kill doombot would be visiting no one.

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I can only think of YWJ having that gut feeling that I must be Ultron. So you don't really have any idea of how you're going to try to find out if someone seems suspicious or not, you're just going to float around and try to be more active because we had 4/6 votes to lynch you? Instead of coming up with idea and different scenarios and getting in touch with the people that you need to get in touch with to coordinate things with, you're going to passively float on and follow other people's voting habits because you cannot form any of your own?

You and Jelly both need to sit back and ask yourselves why you think that I am Ultron. Why would one of the most active players in this game who has been pm'ing people to help come up with plans, who has been actively engaged in discussion, and who is acting on their own judgement be Ultron? Ultron is the free for all guy. He has no team mates. Ultron's job is to sit back and try to be the least noticed person in the game. If his power is too great, he's going to be a target to get killed, so he's going to have to play selfishly. The most powerful abilities are Captain America, Thor, Scarlet Witch, and Black Widow. I do not think Ultron is (even after Thor dying and being reborn) either of those. Ultron is that guy that's voting with everyone else while giving a very small amount of information as to why so he doesn't draw too much attention to himself.

Also, just so everyone is tracking, we don't even need Camila to be alive to be able to tell if the Iron Man suit has been used. I'm pretty sure if we lynch Cami, and D3 rolls around with only one person dead and Exilement tells us that only one person targeted that guy, it would be safe to assume that the suit is used up. Boomerang is Thor, so we could easily check to see if he stunned anyone on that night, but if Exilement's passive works like I think it does, then it should be able to tell us if both the Doombots and Ultron killed the same target.

Just food for thought, ya know.

Thats not how Ultron is dished out since he's treated differently. Ultron is kind of like a faction and not a role himself with rules of his own. This is why he can be both Ultron and some other role and not just some guy that wants everyone dead like the other mafia games. He doesn't have a choice in the matter if RNG chose him to be the serial killer faction.

It literally can be anyone.

Reading the first post, Exile just gets to know what faction killed who.

Sorry if I'm just a walking reminder right now, I'm trying to read into everything. When I get something, I'll be sure to notify.

Another clarification, does Ultron's immunity for one kill apply to lynches?

Oh wow I thought I was god for a while there.

No.

Well son of tits. I knew it was too good to be true lol. Like, fuck ErrorBlender, his power would have been useless xD

Whose power? I was confused at the sudden divine power bestowed on Smile then quickly taken away.