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Make Chaos and Elemental Free.

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Jan 5, 2016 2:30 AM #1428432
I have been playing Stick Empires for a couple of years now and have been noticing drastic changes in the game and the attitudes of majority of the players in the community. When I first started playing I was used to at least one update a month, maybe a few new armory items every once in a while and improvements to overall gameplay. I enjoyed watching how the game evolved throughout time.

But in the last year I really feel as if the Devs abandoned this game. It would be totally different if ran perfectly and there weren't any problem within the game, but that isn't the case. There are many known problems that need to be fixed but nothing is being done about it.

We all have seen post after post about "problems with elementals" along with post about out of sync abuse and many others. Before we would discuss these problems with one another and try to find solutions, now it seems that we all know the problems that need to be fixed and really don't want to read more about them. On top of that it seems that we all realize that no updates are coming and we have to deal with these problem within the game. Not tomorrow, not next month, shit, maybe not this year.

Which is why I think that Chaos and Elemental should be free. Why should the community spend their hard earned money and valuable time on a game that the Devs don't even respect enough to do simple maintenance on? Would you be obligated to pay rent on an apartment that receives no maintenance or upkeep?

"But Archy, it cost money to run this game, how can you expect them to give it away for free?"

Yeah it does, but we have to understand a couple of things. The method of pay for this game is buggy to begin with. Multiple post have been made say that players are having trouble purchasing membership. In addition to multiple players figuring out how to get membership for free. Also understand that the number of players barely increased since I started playing Stick Empires to now. That tells me little or no marketing is being done to promote this game. So I think it's safe to say that generating revenue wasn't the Devs goals to begin with.

All I'm saying is, if the Devs want to charge money for Chaos and Elemental, then they should at least show some care in the game and update it every once in a while, if the Devs don't plan on updating, then find other ways to generate revenue to keep their games running. Don't rely on the players if you're not going to invest time into the game to keep it running smoothly
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Jan 5, 2016 3:56 AM #1428440
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This is a part of an email my friend and I sent to to CJ and Brock a few months ago, suggesting some marketing strategies. I have never seen an ad in my life for SE, so it obviously would be a good idea to put advertisements up on wikis and steam and such. I'd like to know if you guys agree with this so perhaps CJ can know what to implement, and increase revenue/growth of the game.

Archy, honestly it is your decision whether or not to buy a gold membership. You can cancel your membership but others can keep theirs. I couldn't care less if you have one. But the rest of us can choose to support this game. You can play it for free.
And I am tired of no updates, but I can be patient and wait for SWL and SW3 to come out. CJ replied to us several months ago, and told us that after the team finished those projects up, they would implement clans and custom clan statues, and that they may add purchasable uses of Chaos and Elemental.
The thing is, if you want updates, people support the game by buying a membership, including you. Then the devs can hopefully use that money to buy ads and thus increase growth of the game so they get more money and thus can further fund updates. If you don't want to give the devs money, then you should not expect updates.

Also, I've heard no such thing of this 'free membership' bug that you are talking about. Never have heard anyone say anything about it.
Are you saying that you use this bug? Then you should be banned for openly admitting it, if you do, on the forums.
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Jan 5, 2016 4:22 AM #1428441
Jay already said so himself the dev team was very busy making legacy and SW3. He also promised updates will come after legacy and SW3, and I think that makes sense. I'm very surprised you're still going on about how the devs abandoned this game when jay said why there are no new updates. Read this:http://forums.stickpage.com/showthread.php?97624-What-s-Next-and-New
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Jan 5, 2016 4:25 AM #1428442
But Archy, it costs bananas to run this game, how can you expect them to peel them all for free?
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Jan 5, 2016 5:55 AM #1428454
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This is a part of an email my friend and I sent to to CJ and Brock a few months ago, suggesting some marketing strategies. I have never seen an ad in my life for SE, so it obviously would be a good idea to put advertisements up on wikis and steam and such. I'd like to know if you guys agree with this so perhaps CJ can know what to implement, and increase revenue/growth of the game.

Archy, honestly it is your decision whether or not to buy a gold membership. You can cancel your membership but others can keep theirs. I couldn't care less if you have one. But the rest of us can choose to support this game. You can play it for free.
And I am tired of no updates, but I can be patient and wait for SWL and SW3 to come out. CJ replied to us several months ago, and told us that after the team finished those projects up, they would implement clans and custom clan statues, and that they may add purchasable uses of Chaos and Elemental.
The thing is, if you want updates, people support the game by buying a membership, including you. Then the devs can hopefully use that money to buy ads and thus increase growth of the game so they get more money and thus can further fund updates. If you don't want to give the devs money, then you should not expect updates.

Also, I've heard no such thing of this 'free membership' bug that you are talking about. Never have heard anyone say anything about it.
Are you saying that you use this bug? Then you should be banned for openly admitting it, if you do, on the forums.


Jay and I discussed marketing and as far as I know they aren't planning on too much marketing for SE at the moment. I wonder what their plan is.
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Jan 5, 2016 6:12 AM #1428457
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Jay and I discussed marketing and as far as I know they aren't planning on too much marketing for SE at the moment. I wonder what their plan is.


Advertising or marketing?
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Jan 5, 2016 6:13 AM #1428458
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Advertising or marketing?


Either if i'm not mistaken. They are just gonna kinda... leave it there. For now at least.
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Jan 5, 2016 7:30 AM #1428485
So I just did a search on twitter and IG for stickempires and.... I got nothing. Seriously c,mon. I can understand if they don't want to invest money or time in marketing this game, but at least have some social media accounts. You have some players posting the game on social media but no account to direct viewers of the post to. That really just shows me they aren't trying to grow their game at all. As I said before there is a very small increase in the number of players from the time I started playing which is a 2 or 3 year time span.

I understand it's their game and they can run it how they choose. If they choose not to market their product... That's them... If they choose not explore other options of generating revenue for their products.... That's them... And if they choose to charge the loyal players who have been playing their games for years, after choosing not to do any of the previously things I've just mentioned, that's them.... But if they are going to do that, at least show some type of care if they are going to that. The Devs make is so no marketing goes into this game, no maintenance, no growth and as of recent, no time. I just don't think it's right to charge people for something that they don't care about themselves. Why would you move onto different project if the current one isn't even stable???

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Also, I've heard no such thing of this 'free membership' bug that you are talking about. Never have heard anyone say anything about it.
Are you saying that you use this bug? Then you should be banned for openly admitting it, if you do, on the forums.


I spoke about it in my post I made in September. I have seen players accuse other players of abusing this glitch. I have seen other players admit to it. I have seen guides online and videos on youtube about it. Along with numerous players in the global chat talking about it. Also take note that many players have made post on these very forums complaining about a bug that caused them not to being able to purchase membership. So next time you make assumptions against me, please have stronger evidence than "I Didn't See It"
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Jan 5, 2016 2:18 PM #1428536
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Also, I've heard no such thing of this 'free membership' bug that you are talking about. Never have heard anyone say anything about it.
Are you saying that you use this bug? Then you should be banned for openly admitting it, if you do, on the forums.


It is possible. Trust me. Long time ago i tried that glitch. It worked. CJ had mercy but he said if i do that glcitch again i'll get banned.
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Jan 5, 2016 3:28 PM #1428551
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So I just did a search on twitter and IG for stickempires and.... I got nothing. Seriously c,mon. I can understand if they don't want to invest money or time in marketing this game, but at least have some social media accounts. You have some players posting the game on social media but no account to direct viewers of the post to. That really just shows me they aren't trying to grow their game at all. As I said before there is a very small increase in the number of players from the time I started playing which is a 2 or 3 year time span.

I understand it's their game and they can run it how they choose. If they choose not to market their product... That's them... If they choose not explore other options of generating revenue for their products.... That's them... And if they choose to charge the loyal players who have been playing their games for years, after choosing not to do any of the previously things I've just mentioned, that's them.... But if they are going to do that, at least show some type of care if they are going to that. The Devs make is so no marketing goes into this game, no maintenance, no growth and as of recent, no time. I just don't think it's right to charge people for something that they don't care about themselves. Why would you move onto different project if the current one isn't even stable???



I spoke about it in my post I made in September. I have seen players accuse other players of abusing this glitch. I have seen other players admit to it. I have seen guides online and videos on youtube about it. Along with numerous players in the global chat talking about it. Also take note that many players have made post on these very forums complaining about a bug that caused them not to being able to purchase membership. So next time you make assumptions against me, please have stronger evidence than "I Didn't See It"


Currently there is a ton of hype for Legacy, as they have been marketing it. More people are into it because more people are attached to SW1 with memories of playing as a kid, or whatever. So they seem to be doing something right. They already stated when they were coming back, a few months. These bullshit posts won't do anything.
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Jan 5, 2016 4:01 PM #1428560
Making Chaos and Elementals free would be great if there was some other way to pay for the servers and domain name and bandwidth. Cosmetics are not as powerful appeals and simply don't pull in the money that a pay wall does. SW:L uses video ads which is quite a nice business strategy (no pay wall) but these video ads are less tolerated on desktops - people use ad block and don't like seeing ads so there needs to be some better idea.
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Jan 6, 2016 1:47 AM #1428667
That's a new way of thinking, if the devs do find some other way of getting dem dollar bills it would be nice to get free elementals and chaos.
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