BIN THIS. NOW.
Started by: 969_DoomsDruid_969 | Replies: 93 | Views: 11,668 | Closed
Oct 9, 2016 8:50 PM #1463858
I'm still gonna fight you at some point.
Oct 9, 2016 9:04 PM #1463867
Eventually. It'll happen.
Oct 9, 2016 9:06 PM #1463868
Sooner rather than later. Handyman's purpose is to bypass the level of any opponent's power and force them to deal with their own character. Basically, "fuck you, get better." Me wanting to fight you is my way of wishing you to get better. Sure, I could make a huge ranty post, but I'd rather go about it in a way that's a bit more fun~
Oct 10, 2016 8:41 PM #1463960
*inhales deeply
*exhales deeply
I think you HORRIFICALLY OVERESTIMATE how bad I am. Sure, I'm not an old pro on this forum (hell, I don't know how to put up a poll), but I CAN write... almost acceptably. I believe the "you can't write" idea comes from the fact my char. is bad.
*exhales deeply
I think you HORRIFICALLY OVERESTIMATE how bad I am. Sure, I'm not an old pro on this forum (hell, I don't know how to put up a poll), but I CAN write... almost acceptably. I believe the "you can't write" idea comes from the fact my char. is bad.
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Oct 11, 2016 4:52 AM #1463995
I'm not here to debate the character, but there's nothing stopping you from writing a story. I'd be more than happy to give you feedback on that, and the issue that you're running into with people isn't that they think your bad, per say, just difficult to work with. For example, I had a guy, Hollywood, and his attack was basically a one-shot when it hit. If several people told me it was a bit stong and I stood by my (blow)guns for too long, I'd have the exact same problem. It doesn't mean Dan is a shitty writer, it means Dan doesn't work well with others. Again, not here to debate that, that's just the outword perspective. The Alex you have may very well be fine in a different world, so by all means write her in those. Hell, I know acute has a godlike character in some of her stories, but with (shoot, I forgot her name) her, she isn't the lead. Gladiator stories don't all have to be battles either, you can do stuff on the side too. I have, Ignus has, Chrome has, Alph has, and a lot more. Beyond just clan related. I know you like her, so if she makes you want to write, write, right? Just, maybe have a weaker gladiator if you want to write with others. You clearly did a lot of looking into what all kinds of characters are in the lounge. What would put up a good fight against them? Alph hugs the powerful side while Chrome and I stay a little on the weak. An in between would do you well.
Oct 11, 2016 10:09 AM #1464001
This is very true... so true in fact... that I have already considered the stuff you have said. Not saying tho, that your comment was unhelpful, as a second opinion is always good. Thank you.
*scurries off to continue writing AL.ice and Luka.
*scurries off to continue writing AL.ice and Luka.
Oct 12, 2016 12:05 PM #1464066
Quote from CrankDan...Dan
Good advice you gave, but you do realize Dooms has no idea who this mysterious "Dan" is? :P You abuse your insider knowledge...XD.
EDIT:
I have not been responding to your messages because I'm not really sure how to take them (they gave off the aura of rage quitting) and both of them seemed to contain oddball scripts my security didn't like.
I'm not ignoring you, though. Hopefully this change will be for the better, as it seems you are finally taking our advice.
On the flip side, no one ever said you can't write. In fact, early on, I believe I said just the opposite in that I said I see potential in you (or something along those lines).
Just so you know, I use The Doctor and The Fixer as my wRHG. I have another five chars in gdocs that I've either abandoned or shelved because they're rather smutty and don't do what I want.
Vern can attest that just last week I aired a char idea to him that turned out to fall entirely flat -- it was based off a great principle, but really missed the mark on character quality.
You're not alone in have a char that just wasn't right. The key point is whether or not you can say "Alright, fine...my readership doesn't like the material I give, so I'll adjust to produce better material."
None of us on the more seasoned side of the wRHG (and I'm just glad I'm considered part of them after so short a time here) got here instantly. We all started out just like you (or for many of us far worse) whether on or off this forum and had to hone our skills.
So stick with it, make sure this duo doesn't fall into the same traps as Alex, and I hope you do well.
Oct 12, 2016 6:45 PM #1464082
I would like to know what said traps are (aside from omnipotence. If you say that, I will reach through the internet and slap you). Just for future reference. I got rid of Alex because the powers she could use at any point were kinda op (psychic, Oil but indestructible, teleportation, and of course Pandemonium, which is probably the least op except) when put together with each other, because it makes her ok in ranged power-spamming, and INSANE in CQC. Now I aim to make my duo not as op (but I might fuck up. Who knows)?
Oct 12, 2016 6:52 PM #1464083
Most powers work, but some need heavy weakening. Guns, for instance, might be iffy. It's a quick kill weapon with a lot of range, but in the past, people have gotten away with it. Aquila and Chrome have both temporarily had them, but again, if you can do without it, I would. Post-death kills are another thing to watch out for. Like, I kill you, you explode.
EDIT: And context clues, Alph
It is very case to case though, what did you have in mind?
EDIT: And context clues, Alph
It is very case to case though, what did you have in mind?
Oct 13, 2016 12:20 PM #1464134
Quote from CrankPost-death kills are another thing to watch out for. Like, I kill you, you explode.
(I sense a reference to Altaer somewhere in there...)
Honestly, dooms, there is not TONS that needs to be avoided IN AND OF ITSELF. Generally speaking, you can give a char a really freaking powerful ability, and so long as it isn't a "I WIN 99.999% GUARANTEED" kind of ability, it will be fine.
Personally, with Alex, I didn't have tons of problem with her having each individual power (aside from a few). Cranks right about powers, but I would also warn against power stacking. If you look at most characters on the forum, they average around three powers, give or take -- some chars, like Vern's former Agent Gamma, don't have any "powers" but are still really good.
Think of food. You like Indian food, Mexican, Chinese, BBQ, and Italian. But making a Barbequed Risotto Tandori Wonton Chimichanga would not taste good.
EDIT: I haven't read anything about your chars yet, so I look forward to seeing what you put out. ;)
Oct 13, 2016 3:26 PM #1464155
Well, neither of my chars. are fully human, so they have different stuff based on that, but then there is their actual abilities and weapons (Sneferka has his wasi (plural of was) and black metallic sand, and Al.ice has her twin athanes and ... her hives I guess? this is for weapons) and (Sneferka has his Entropy and For Aeons and Al.ice has her Pulse and Xylokinesis. this is for powers). So that might be a bit too much but I guess i'll see. I like having chars. with variety though. Any way, just a sneak peek.
Oct 13, 2016 5:24 PM #1464168
It might be tricky to keep track of all that, yeah, especially with a dou. What's the extent of the powers, though?
Oct 13, 2016 6:32 PM #1464170
Quote from CrankIt might be tricky to keep track of all that, yeah, especially with a dou. What's the extent of the powers, though?
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Trust me, it's all planned. Also it IS an Alphaeus duo, so you probably won't fight both unless you have an Alphaeus duo yourself.
Also, as in regards to your question;
Well that would be telling, wouldn't it? :rolleyes:
Oct 14, 2016 1:44 AM #1464199
Quote from 969_DoomsDruid_969Also it IS an Alphaeus duo, so you probably won't fight both unless you have an Alphaeus duo yourself.
Heh, I like how you act as if I created that style of duo just because I'm the only one around right now.
Anyhow, based off of my knowledge of the "Alphaeus Duo" style ( :P ), let me see if I've got this right:
These are going to be two powerful, free-standing chars that just happen to be connected plot-wise/personally-IC. For reasons of power-overplay, you will be writing about them both but will usually avoid fighting with them both via plot manipulation. You will fight with either one, though, because while connected they are deeply their own individuals and have their own plots (and besides, you want the variety). Even then, though, you will have a leader in the duo.
Oct 14, 2016 1:53 AM #1464200
Just gonna say, it sort of invalidates the purpose of a duo if both characters are powerful enough individually to be their own gladiators. I recommend not going down that path.