Well, now that we know Drizzle is NOT Kuro, we should work on another strategy and (hopefully) catch Kuro before someone else dies...

And MAYBE see if Drizzle is either Shiro (which is good) or a Traitor (which is bad)

I'd like to know if Aruto or Alph found out about someone this night, this could give us more info. Kuro doesn't know anyone, he could kill a traitor but it doesn't matter since all that matters is he kills two successfully.

I say we use the Grad Album on Drizzle to confirm if he can be trusted, he isn't Kuro thats one thing for sure.

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I'd like to know if Aruto or Alph found out about someone this night, this could give us more info. Kuro doesn't know anyone, he could kill a traitor but it doesn't matter since all that matters is he kills two successfully.

I say we use the Grad Album on Drizzle to confirm if he can be trusted, he isn't Kuro thats one thing for sure.

Oh yeah, that's fair. I didn't think of that.

So is Kuro the only one able to kill someone? Not the despair people too?

No, they are able to kill Despair/Traitor too. The thing is though, is that they don't know who is the traitor is so they might kill them off by accident.

Don't we only have 1 grad album? What happened when aruta found out someone from despair?

That's alright too. Finding the despair right now is actually bad for him because being a shiro right now means he will never need to die, and that's basically against his win condition.

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I'd like to know if Aruto or Alph found out about someone this night, this could give us more info. Kuro doesn't know anyone, he could kill a traitor but it doesn't matter since all that matters is he kills two successfully.

I say we use the Grad Album on Drizzle to confirm if he can be trusted, he isn't Kuro thats one thing for sure.

Aight, but you'll have to wait till night.

Even if I say that, I'd like for everyone to have their opinions on this. Smile hasn't posted yet, and his opinion on this is greatly appreciated. So hold on to that thought Person

School just started for me and I have a lot of things to do so sorry if I can't be as active as some of you guys. Sorry if I'm not being that helpful atm.

I'd say use the graduation album now on Drizzle. I don't know if we should be too dependent on Aruta's investigation too much that we'd be paralyzed without it. There's a small chance that he's a Despair Student but I think it's worth taking the risk.

Alright guys.

So, just read myself up to date.

First, I don't think we're going to EVER know what Aruta knows. Think about it. If the Aruta told us through the only method available (this open discussion) that would kinda reveal who Aruta is. Unless we WANT that to happen, I don't think the Aruta will reveal him/herself.

As to what I found --

Smile is NOT a Shiro, which leaves Monomi, Despair Disease Student, and Aruta still open on the Hope side.

Or Smile is Despair.

I definitely recommend someone using their staff soon, but maybe not yet.

Also, those Bojobo dolls should be thrown into the mix, IMO. My calculations from early on still stand regarding their use and the likely hood of helping a Hope vs Despair. Unless, of course, the person holding them is actually a Despair and doesn't WANT to use them.

Lastly, this is just me being SUPER suspicious, but I have to say this -- let's not just assume AI is Hope because they protected someone. It would be a wonderful cover to be Despair but still pretend to "resist" the Kuro. Particularly if said person is the Ultimate Despair.

I don't have ANYTHING that would make me certain of this personally, I'm just saying this to get that viewpoint out there for discussion.

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100% KNOWNS RECORD --

1) Drizzle is NOT the Kuro.

2) Smile is NOT a Shiro.

What do you mean you found Smile is not a Shiro?

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What do you mean you found Smile is not a Shiro?

I used my silent receiver. I had suspected Smile was someone other than a Shiro, and I was right.

Still have no clue what Smile ACTUALLY is, tho. Could be Hope or Despair. But at least I've ruled out a lot of options.

So if we're being really clear about what is absolutely known then

-YOU know Smile is not a Shiro or you're lying to us
-ALL of us know Drizzle is not Kuro because that's public knowledge assuming Kuro can't actually target himself
and The traitors know who is Kuro

This is interesting now, we need to get Smile to reveal his role because at least we can get something out of it. Or that Alpha is lying.

Well this makes things significantly easier. We can afford (key word: afford, not aim) to not lynch anyone today. If Smile is on our side, he'll either reveal himself as Monomi or Aruta. He won't reveal himself as Aruta if he's lying; another will exist and can call him out (ergo, if he reveals himself as Aruta, he's most likely telling the truth). If he comes out as monomi, then he might still be lying. We can tell him to save doctornoob and if he doesn't, we lynch him the next day. If he does, then we lynch Alphaeus.