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Dec 1, 2017 4:31 PM #1486055
So I was in two battles and both my opponents have passed their deadlines. I claim win by forfeit to both of them. Here are my stories though :D

Jason vs Declan(Kamirro Wolf)

Jason vs Serena(fireflygoddess)

You might notice a large difference in quality between the two stories by the way. Don't mind that.
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Dec 6, 2017 11:06 PM #1486218
Alright, here we go!

I remember you already showing me the second, so:

Open Season (Click to Show)


Looking forward to the next one!
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Dec 11, 2017 9:30 PM #1486325
Greek!!!!! i for one never said i forfeit. remember i said i was going through some troublesome times!!! >:[ By the light you did not even let me recover. i will argue against this forfeit because our battle had no time limit. I am not an angry person but this does it. when i do write my battle you will be torn apart by my goddesses demon mode. no mercy will be given. none what so ever!!!!
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Dec 11, 2017 10:57 PM #1486327
Quote from fireflygoddess
Greek!!!!! i for one never said i forfeit. remember i said i was going through some troublesome times!!! >:[ By the light you did not even let me recover. i will argue against this forfeit because our battle had no time limit. I am not an angry person but this does it. when i do write my battle you will be torn apart by my goddesses demon mode. no mercy will be given. none what so ever!!!!


A battle can't be started without an official deadline. I'm pretty sure that rule is in place so things like this don't happen.
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Dec 11, 2017 11:09 PM #1486329
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A battle can't be started without an official deadline. I'm pretty sure that rule is in place so things like this don't happen.


true it is. usually there is a deadline. but my sister has been going through the same things that i have on account we live together to save money and thus life has gotten in the way. i will talk to her and see if i cannot calm her down.
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Dec 13, 2017 10:29 AM #1486357
Sorry for my stupidity but fireflygoddess is buckethead's sister?
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Dec 13, 2017 7:05 PM #1486363
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Sorry for my stupidity but fireflygoddess is buckethead's sister?


Don't your stupidity for that, I have it loosely connected too. I am pretty sure this true IRL but they have have the final say on this but that's besides the point.

Firefly, our battle started around the end of September or early October if I am not wrong. I would say I have shown enough patience already. I am sincerely sorry if you have trouble in real life, but the rules are the rules. I extended the deadline again and again, to the point I honestly forgot about our battle at one point. Please accept that youare past the deadline and don't let your emotions blind your decision. This is just a game. If we get angry over a game then what's the point of it?(sorry for my bad wording)
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Dec 13, 2017 7:31 PM #1486366
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you will be torn apart by my goddesses demon mode.


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goddesses demon mode.


This still bothers me even though it has been a few days since I've seen it.... "demon mode"... on a firefly character
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Dec 13, 2017 9:16 PM #1486369
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Firefly, our battle started around the end of September or early October if I am not wrong. I would say I have shown enough patience already. I am sincerely sorry if you have trouble in real life, but the rules are the rules. I extended the deadline again and again, to the point I honestly forgot about our battle at one point. Please accept that youare past the deadline and don't let your emotions blind your decision. This is just a game. If we get angry over a game then what's the point of it?(sorry for my bad wording)


true that was when our battle started but remember there was no deadline. and my part will be done tomorrow. remember what i said. no mercy for you and i meant it.
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Dec 14, 2017 2:36 AM #1486371
Alright folks, let's see if we can sort this out.

1) Battles with deadlines -- to prevent this from happening, always set a deadline. Period. Even those of us that have been here awhile and know full well we might have to move things set a deadline just so that there is a precedent ready if things get out of hand. It is too late for this, but do remember that in the future.

2) Claiming forfeits -- when there is a deadline this can be done once the other writer is well past their deadline. When there is not a deadline, or the deadline was dropped -- which does happen even with the seniors around here -- generally it is common courtesy to issue at least a couple of warnings to the other writers. Whatever might be the cause, the other writers should be given a "last chance" opportunity to reply and clear up an issue.

3) "No mercy for you" -- No matter what, this is not to be the attitude of the writers. Trust me, there have been major conflicts between the long-time writers here but we keep most things constrained to the appropriate handling of the matter. Here's the problem -- you have an issue with how a REAL person handled a writing competition. Reacting by trying to punish the FICTIONAL character of that person is merely an underhanded attempt at harming them. Do recall that this is a competition won by public voting, and this kind of behavior -- whether you say or it people can just tell -- certainly won't work in your own favor. This is a forum that is designed (or, rather, we are working on making it this way) to help writers learn how to write well, hone their skills, practice with other writers, work in a communal positive environment, and find success with their talents.

3, cont.) Firefly -- I would never recommend trying to "get back" at someone because it won't help you, them, or the greater community. To satisfy you desire for equality, your best course of action would actually be to take the battle seriously and write a considerate and careful battle. By doing this you place yourself on equal standing with your opponent's battle, and stand a decent chance of winning the votes. Trying to get back at him by destroying his character will result in a battle that reflects this throughout, thereby setting a tone that is quite unlikely to gain winning votes.

4) Even with no deadlines -- despite there not being deadlines (and Greek mishandling the claiming of the forfeit by not warning his opponents), it is wise to be considerate. I claimed a forfeit once that the other player didn't really want to give me, but he was mature and considerate enough to realize that it was my right since he had lost his drive to finish the battle several months previously (as a note, I had let him hang on for seven months past the original deadline, just to make a point about "waiting" on others and communicating with them). Thus, if you know you aren't in a position to finish a battle in a timely manner, it is usually advisable to accept -- ruefully -- the forfeit out of courtesy to the other writer. More optimally, of course, is just not taking a battle you may not finish.


Conclusion:
>>>Greek, you handled the claiming of the forfeit improperly by failing to even warn the other writers about this to see if they wanted to try to finish.

>>>Firefly, you have handled Greek's mistakes improperly by resorting to aggressive and vengeful attitudes and behavior that won't benefit anyone -- including yourself -- in the long run.

In light of this:

>>>I would suggest that Greek willingly accept Firefly's desire to finish her side, and consider this in the future. He should also issue a warning to Kamiroo Wolf via PMs regarding the forfeit, offering a chance to finish.

>>>Firefly should let herself cool a bit before writing her battle, and strive to do her absolute best while remaining respectful of her opponent. A simple mistake of etiquette has happened, and show kindness that, as the wise saying goes, "through your kindness you may heap coals of fire upon their head." In other words, acting rude to someone you perceive as being rude to you results in a vicious cycle and lowers your own standards. Showing kindness, politeness, and respect in spite of being wronged shows you to be mature and also allows others to respect you as well, changing the whole tone of the situation.
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I hope that you both take my advice in the helpful -- and somewhat admonishing -- manner it is intended, and resolve this peacefully and respectfully.
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Dec 14, 2017 3:20 PM #1486378
ok alphaeus. point taken. to be honest the no mercy part was a huge mistake on my part i have calmed down. my part was almost finished in the first place but i still wanted to show off a bit with my characters darkerside anyways. this just gave me the excuse to do just that. i will be taking greek's battle and mine later today and posting a poll. i hope that i can get back to the light by then.
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Dec 14, 2017 8:22 PM #1486385
Quote from Alphaeus

In light of this:


Pun intended?

Besides that, although I might be wrong at this we had set a deadline. But that doesn't matter now does it?

Firefly, you go and complete your story and post a poll(I suspect that you'll get my story from this thread). At this point I don't really care. I have kinda abandoned wRHG as of now and I want to exclusively focus on the story I write. Also I am pretty sure I will lose because my story is really bad my today's standards as I wrote this, like, two to three months ago. I have progressed a lot since then(I hope).
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