What is 0

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May 21, 2006 9:38 PM #10163
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Edzachary what most of the other posters have said. :)

except for the fact that my post is more logical.
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May 21, 2006 9:41 PM #10164
Yeah, your post does explain it a little more logically than ours do.
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May 21, 2006 9:42 PM #10165
The only thing that I find weird about zero is that in many places, it is unreachable.

This one gets me yelled at when I explain it to my friends, but here goes. Hold your finger about an inch away from your desk. We'll call the distance between the two things '1 unit'. Now move it about halfway closer. '.5 units', right? Now keep going closer. The distance can always get smaller, right? You can always add one more '0' to the decimal. '.01 units', '.001 units'...

So, in essence, can you touch the desk?

EDIT: And I think zero is a number. It was made up by whoever made up the counting system. It's just a way of saying none.
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May 21, 2006 9:42 PM #10166
It seems mine have gone ignored....
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May 21, 2006 9:44 PM #10167
Yes you can touch the desk. just go ahead and touch it. 0 can be reached by measuring the distance as 0 because there is no space(0 space) between you and your desk
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May 21, 2006 9:46 PM #10168
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The only thing that I find weird about zero is that in many places, it is unreachable.

This one gets me yelled at when I explain it to my friends, but here goes. Hold your finger about an inch away from your desk. We'll call the distance between the two things '1 unit'. Now move it about halfway closer. '.5 units', right? Now keep going closer. The distance can always get smaller, right? You can always add one more '0' to the decimal. '.01 units', '.001 units'...

So, in essence, can you touch the desk?

EDIT: And I think zero is a number. It was made up by whoever made up the counting system. It's just a way of saying none.

To elaborate onto Cromwell's post, you can't reach the desk using that method. Other methods will work however, especially in the higher, more advanced forms of math.
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May 21, 2006 9:47 PM #10169
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Yes you can touch the desk. just go ahead and touch it. 0 can be reached by measuring the distance as 0 because there is no space(0 space) between you and your desk

But can't you keep on getting less and less distance between your finger and the desk?
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May 21, 2006 9:50 PM #10171
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Yes you can touch the desk. just go ahead and touch it. 0 can be reached by measuring the distance as 0 because there is no space(0 space) between you and your desk

There is though. You touch the electrons on the desk, not the desk itself.

And Tomo, I just did a paper on that, it's called the diversive infinity theory. It states that every time you have a verifiable distance between two objects, there are infinite points on that line.

Some intresting stuff.
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May 21, 2006 9:51 PM #10173
In other words, this discussion is pointless. 0 is a number that represents nothing, and replaces any number 1-9 that does not belong in that place value.
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May 21, 2006 9:52 PM #10174
Using the method of halving the distance, yes. But if you were to use some other method such as using the equations in advanced physics and other areas like it, you can theorize a way to diminish the distance enough to reach 0.

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Sorry, didn't post fast enough.
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May 21, 2006 9:53 PM #10175
Just subtract the total distance from the total, and it will reach 0 easy enough.
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May 21, 2006 9:54 PM #10176
Really, what is there to debate? Zero is just the only number without a value. What's the mystery about it?
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May 21, 2006 9:54 PM #10177
That's cheating! Lol...
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May 21, 2006 10:01 PM #10178
anything goes in math as long as it abides with the laws of math. 1+1=2 1-1=0
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May 21, 2006 10:31 PM #10179
0 is the basis of all numbers, its most important, as I said before, everything equals it, so thats all their is to say.