but it doesnt mention SecuRom.
It doesnt say it once, and it certainly doesnt ask for your permission for it to edit your registry and install itself into your computers kernal.

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It isn't their fault then is it if you have ****ING READ THE END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT. It is a legal ****ing document, which would actually tell you everything about the SecRom.

By saying that you agree to it, is the same as you signing a contract.

Exactly as Dragon says, the EULA of Spore didn't say jack shit about SecuRom, and THAT'S the problem with it: it's malware that they are installing without your consent.

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waaait.
So FarCry 2, spore and new games install SecuROM (is that right) and it moniters your computer? Without telling you!?

Thats more like, paranoid. anyway, After you uninstall the game, will it uninstall SecuROM, or will you have to remove that seperately?

WHAT? You got to be kidding me? I installed a demo of spore and then my computer went crazy. Is SecuROM included in demos? Cause if it is if have it on my spare computer! Good thing I didn't put it on my laptop. What does SecROM mointer? Just the game or other stuff?

lol, they're getting a vendetta over all PC gamers

Is there a proven list of all the stuff securom does? Link anyone?

Same, 360 is great as games are made for the maximum of its hardware, and everything is compact and you don't have to upgrade. :D

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Is there a proven list of all the stuff securom does? Link anyone?

There might be some kind of list, but you can always consider almost every good game that came out after Spore to have it.

I meant what securom does that is so bad. Everyone is saying it is malware, and installs tons of stuff, but I have never seen a proven list of things it does. Is there one?

Well you could try google-ing it. Everyone hates this thing so there must be some kind of list


And everyone's mad because it installs something we don't want to install. I mean, with UT3 you have to install PhyX and that's cool because the game needs that program to work well. But when they start putting shit up, we don't absolutely need, it gets annoying because we paid for the game, and it's ours and we wouldn't have to put up with this kind of shit.

Wrong you don't own anything.

You bought a license agreement, nothing more. The disk, case, manual and all the information hat is on the disk is the property of the developer.

You bought the right to use it.

55€ for the right to use something.


Gees...

wow.

pirates pirating.
who places their bets on the pirate boy doin it first?

Jeremy.
SecuRom installs itself into the computers Kernal (Ring 0), and installs another part into its normal application ring, also known as ring 3. Since the main program is inside the Kernal, it can do practically what it wishes. It interrupts and messes around with programs such as Nero, and other burning/ripping/mounting programs. It also messes with Task Manager. It removes itself and other parts from the processes menu, meaning you cant stop it, even in safe mode.

SecuRom, as it is programmed to do, will run checks on your CD's, to see if their legit. They force your DVD drives and CD drives to do so, in which case, they are not designed to do. They become instable and crash.

If you have any sort of program it thinks is a pirating program, it prevents the game from loading, mentioning some sort of emulation error. Forcing a honest buying into cracking his own game. WHICH THEY BOUGHT.

There has been cases of Anti-Virus's being shut down and stopped by SecuRom, as part of secuRom is technically a rootkit, as it is inside a part, it shouldnt be.

There are other things that SecuRom has been accused of doing, just on the programs assumption, like "Oh, this person has 2 Disk drives. THey must be a pirate!" and stopping the drives from working."

The only way to remove it known to me is to do a re-format of your disk.

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Jeremy.
SecuRom installs itself into the computers Kernal (Ring 0), and installs another part into its normal application ring, also known as ring 3. Since the main program is inside the Kernal, it can do practically what it wishes. It interrupts and messes around with programs such as Nero, and other burning/ripping/mounting programs. It also messes with Task Manager. It removes itself and other parts from the processes menu, meaning you cant stop it, even in safe mode.

SecuRom, as it is programmed to do, will run checks on your CD's, to see if their legit. They force your DVD drives and CD drives to do so, in which case, they are not designed to do. They become instable and crash.

If you have any sort of program it thinks is a pirating program, it prevents the game from loading, mentioning some sort of emulation error. Forcing a honest buying into cracking his own game. WHICH THEY BOUGHT.

There has been cases of Anti-Virus's being shut down and stopped by SecuRom, as part of secuRom is technically a rootkit, as it is inside a part, it shouldnt be.

There are other things that SecuRom has been accused of doing, just on the programs assumption, like "Oh, this person has 2 Disk drives. THey must be a pirate!" and stopping the drives from working."

The only way to remove it known to me is to do a re-format of your disk.

Finally, thank you Drag