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Beginners, post your Pivot animations here.

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Nov 19, 2012 1:31 PM #791895
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That was nice Radon. Nice and clean.

Your question about what to do with the legs is answered by asking why the figure is walking at all. How likely is it that someone who is punching (that is the main goal of the animation, I assume - punching) will step forward evenly with each punch? Try and do it yourself. It feels all wrong. There is no power in the punches and your balance is messed up because you're trying to step too quickly.

I'd suggest you try and make the animation closer to human movement, and in doing so the animation will make more visual sense - it'll be more believable. Perhaps he should take a single, larger step. Try that, punch twice and take one step as you do. Much more natural, and powerful, right? You get a more controlled (faster!) jabbing punch action, that is much more viable in a fight. The resulting animation shouldn't have the stiff leg problem and it should be easier to animate, as where the figure's limbs go will more or less decide itself.

My point is, if you're having trouble animating a movement, take a step back (hah!) from what you're working on and try to do it. It can teach you a lot about what is wrong and why and where. Sometimes you don't need to, if it's a movement you're familiar with, or if you're being cartoony, of course. It does help sometimes, though.

I made this the other day, and whilst it's cartoony in places, the way the figure throws the ball and hangs slightly after doing so came from pretending to do it for real. I admit I felt a bit silly doing it, but hey, sacrifices yano. ;)
http://darkdemon.org/user-files/16909/1352160515.gif

Hope this helps.


You know i really thought about it once. My movements were stiff and stuff :D and i said to myself: What the feck is this shit? I can't even do that in real life.
And then i got too lazy to get up and try the moves so i deleted the animation.

Working on my anim right now.

Edit: Here it is

So tell me if i can continue or not. Tell me what to fix. He is about to punch for the second time.

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Nov 20, 2012 1:19 PM #792731
Well he still takes 2 steps. But, the way you have it timed, with the punches a decent time apart, you should regain some emphasis on the punches. Still, though, stand up and try to do that. It's still unnatural to step forward like that as you punch. In a fight situation you want to keep your balance, lean in and make quick attacks, then get out of the way before you can be hit.

I just animated this (took 10 minutes, don't judge, lol), which despite being a bit beyond human speed, is still visually believable. The figure is doing what a human most likely would. 1 large step, the first punch as the leg crosses over and the second (heavier) uses the momentum from placing his foot back on the ground. It's explosive, he has managed to reach halfway across he canvas, and he gets back out of the way and is ready for an attack in no time flat.

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Once again this took no time at all and isn't very good. I'm not particularly fond of the timing between the punches (bit too fast) but it suits this purpose. The poses aren't particularly human either, but this is to prove the point of using real life as a basis - then you have the freedom to use slightly weird poses and timing whilst keeping it believable to the human eye.
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Nov 20, 2012 3:38 PM #792758
Got it.
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Nov 20, 2012 7:33 PM #792885
Oh god what am I doing I don't even...
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Nov 20, 2012 9:49 PM #793037
couldnt see the gif Bubbles :P
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Nov 21, 2012 1:35 AM #793229
This post has been deleted by stickly business in shame for being a dumbass :D
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Nov 21, 2012 3:59 PM #793781
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lol idk why but i felt i needed to go back to the basics. :P Anything I need to work on?
Kick punch:
file:///C:/Users/Amber/Desktop/kick%20punch.gif
Earth bending:
file:///C:/Users/Amber/Desktop/earth%20bending%20gif.gif
^copy these onto a new tab to view the gif XP

Try uploading those to a website, we can't view files on your computor now can we?
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Nov 21, 2012 8:44 PM #793994
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Try uploading those to a website, we can't view files on your computor now can we?


lol sorry im a n00b XD
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earth bending^
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Kick Punch^
lol im an idiot X)
thanks bubs :D

And also Radon on your improved punching, it looks to me more like he is pulling something toward him than punching :P it might just be me but if you added a rope in there it would look like he was XD
Maybe its just the awkwardness after the punch that you could work on as well?
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Nov 22, 2012 4:27 PM #794541
lol

Anyway, what you have is nice, you just need to speed up some of his movements and watch he doesn't get stiff. Also I see a bit of shakyness in there, but it's probably just me going stupid with the critique.
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Nov 23, 2012 1:36 AM #795042
ah now that I look at it again, ye ur right its pretty stiff n' shaky X)
ok will do :)
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Nov 23, 2012 6:48 AM #795237
ok well I made this lol so ya :).
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Idk i just luv watching him get crushed over and over again bwahaha >:)
All the sticks I use are my own, and I'm hoping I'm not a beginner anymore? maybe? X)
I just thought I needed to go back to the basics so I could really magnify on what I was messing up on. :)
All of these took like 5 to 10 minutes lol

this is really embarrassing but i felt like i needed to post this as well.
This is, no joke, how I used to animate just like maybe a couple months, maybe weeks ago.

It sucks as you can tell and is very long. soooo I have improved greatly because of the community and everything else so thanks! :D
And now enjoy my n00bishness XD
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Nov 23, 2012 5:05 PM #795590
Hah, that was very enjoyable. Stop putting yourself down all the time, few people even give a crap about animation quality on the pivot section anymore, all the elitest...sss are on flash.
(douchebags)


Anyway, hey look I did something!
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Nov 23, 2012 9:24 PM #795825
Haha thanks :D! And that pivot is super smooth!

*thinks to myself... "and I threw it on da GROUUND" lol"
wow. nobody posts here like, at all...
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Nov 23, 2012 9:38 PM #795833
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Haha thanks :D! And that pivot is super smooth!

*thinks to myself... "and I threw it on da GROUUND" lol"
wow. nobody posts here like, at all...

Iknowright.
Anyway, thanks, though compared to the stuff I was doing in like 2010 it's utter horse-shit.
Not like moving stickmen around in pivot was anything that took any real talent in the first place :/
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Nov 23, 2012 10:28 PM #795859
I post. Like, right now!
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