i think NecroticMannequin is literaly a genius, because he's using words that when other people use i just automaticaly start to shun because they wil make me look bad. But aside from that, there was all sorts of bullshit arguments, like usual a few gay asses a couple hipocrites, a guy with advanced liturature skills, sounds like a great thread to me! For the actual animation, it seems you actualy moved every part of the stick way too much at it screwed everything up and his joints were going everywhere. I'd say go the the beginers section.