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Mar 9, 2009 10:02 PM #371394
Have you been living under a rock this whole time or have you yet to have heard of people taking drastic surgery methods because they've been eating too much? Any habit can be addictive. But no, just because it's a drug and you've seen a couple negative reactions to it, that means that it's an addictive substance. Half my friends have taken ample bites of the gypsy salad and none of them have experienced "trembling 24/7 and as skinny as a plank because he can't take nutrition right". I've never even heard of that symptom coming from someone who's smoked pot before in all my life. If I didn't know any better, I'd say you're describing a crackhead, not a pothead.

With the "evidence" you're giving, I could go ahead and say any food or any habit or any activity is addictive. Just because a couple people you knew or your dad knew (I honestly can't get your story straight) had a bad reaction to it that doesn't mean everyone does. For all you know, he could have just had an allergic reaction to it.Being addicted to marijuana is on the same level as being addicted to candy, not tobacco or cocaine. If someone were to smoke pot a couple times at first, they wouldn't be forced to go back to it like with a cigarette. If someone couldn't get access to a nickelbag one day, they'd probably go without it for a couple days. Meanwhile, if someone couldn't get access to a rock for a day, they'd go out of their way to restock their stash, and if they can't then they'd probably have a bad reaction to it. One of my classmate said he only smokes once a month.

EDIT: Show me five people you know who've done marijuana and gotten "screwed up mentally" and I'll show you a handful that are just fine. If you only knew the amount of people who are doctors and lawyers and CEOs of big companies that get high in just the US alone.
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Mar 9, 2009 10:20 PM #371407
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Mar 9, 2009 11:30 PM #371457
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It depends on the dealer. Chances are, when you buy marijuana you are not buying 100% marijuana. Usually it will be laced with addictive chemicals to make sure you come back for more. If you have a medical condition like that, you have no business trying marijuana.


I seriously hope you're joking.
In the 500+ drug deals I've been involved in, this has never happened.
I'm sure it CAN happen.. but it doesn't.
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Mar 9, 2009 11:35 PM #371462
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It depends on the dealer. Chances are, when you buy marijuana you are not buying 100% marijuana. Usually it will be laced with addictive chemicals to make sure you come back for more. If you have a medical condition like that, you have no business trying marijuana.


someone went to D.A.R.E./P.R.I.D.E.!
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Mar 9, 2009 11:46 PM #371475
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But a mental addiction can lead to physical consequences.
My dad works with people who have social problems, not addicts, but people who used to be addicted and all kinda crap like that. Some of them are ****ed up mentally, but some are even continuously trembling, and one of em has a ****ed up digestive system because of it (he doesn't process food right and shit it out without really taking all the nutrients out).



Please explain to me then why so many people are addicted to weed and are in clinics for it when it's not addictive? Kinda contradictory isn't it?


about 92-96% of the people in rehab for marijuana addiction are their involuntarily.
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Mar 10, 2009 1:55 AM #371518
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Have you been living under a rock this whole time or have you yet to have heard of people taking drastic surgery methods because they've been eating too much? Any habit can be addictive. But no, just because it's a drug and you've seen a couple negative reactions to it, that means that it's an addictive substance. Half my friends have taken ample bites of the gypsy salad and none of them have experienced "trembling 24/7 and as skinny as a plank because he can't take nutrition right". I've never even heard of that symptom coming from someone who's smoked pot before in all my life. If I didn't know any better, I'd say you're describing a crackhead, not a pothead.

With the "evidence" you're giving, I could go ahead and say any food or any habit or any activity is addictive. Just because a couple people you knew or your dad knew (I honestly can't get your story straight) had a bad reaction to it that doesn't mean everyone does. For all you know, he could have just had an allergic reaction to it.Being addicted to marijuana is on the same level as being addicted to candy, not tobacco or cocaine. If someone were to smoke pot a couple times at first, they wouldn't be forced to go back to it like with a cigarette. If someone couldn't get access to a nickelbag one day, they'd probably go without it for a couple days. Meanwhile, if someone couldn't get access to a rock for a day, they'd go out of their way to restock their stash, and if they can't then they'd probably have a bad reaction to it. One of my classmate said he only smokes once a month.

EDIT: Show me five people you know who've done marijuana and gotten "screwed up mentally" and I'll show you a handful that are just fine. If you only knew the amount of people who are doctors and lawyers and CEOs of big companies that get high in just the US alone.


Damn Gavel, you're good at my job.

I also like your name for it, gypsy salad.
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Mar 10, 2009 1:58 AM #371521
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Pardon me? Yes, of course, someone trembling 24/7 and as skinny as a plank because he can't take nutrition right just "likes" it very much.

And also, no my dad doesn't lie to me to keep me from anything, I do pot once in while myself, and he has done his share in his time too.

I've seen a guy whose psychotic because marijuana triggered it. It can trigged all kind of mental conditions. Not often, that true, but once in a while it does.


No, you ****ING retard, you have NEVER seen a guy who is psychotic because of marijuana. That guy might smoke marijuana to help his psychoness, and you, being the general ****tard you are, you associate the drug that MAY be helping him, as the cause for his disability. Marijuana isn't the cause for ANY mental conditions, and for you to say so is ****ing retarded.

EDIT: Also, for all the people that ruined their life because of marijuana, thats not because of marijuana. Its because they were idiots and let a mind altering substance dictate their life. Anyway, I'm sure they didn't even screw up their life that bad. The worst scenario you can get in with smoking weed and having your life ruined is if you get caught with it and go to prison, or fail a drug test and lose your job.
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Mar 10, 2009 2:01 AM #371522
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EDIT: Show me five people you know who've done marijuana and gotten "screwed up mentally" and I'll show you a handful that are just fine. If you only knew the amount of people who are doctors and lawyers and CEOs of big companies that get high in just the US alone.


my 2 cousins became schizophrenics after smoking pot.
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Mar 10, 2009 4:17 AM #371556
Weak and trembling? Ussually when I get high, I get a second and start working out. Strange?
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Mar 10, 2009 2:25 PM #371636
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No, you ****ING retard, you have NEVER seen a guy who is psychotic because of marijuana. That guy might smoke marijuana to help his psychoness, and you, being the general ****tard you are, you associate the drug that MAY be helping him, as the cause for his disability. Marijuana isn't the cause for ANY mental conditions, and for you to say so is ****ing retarded.

EDIT: Also, for all the people that ruined their life because of marijuana, thats not because of marijuana. Its because they were idiots and let a mind altering substance dictate their life. Anyway, I'm sure they didn't even screw up their life that bad. The worst scenario you can get in with smoking weed and having your life ruined is if you get caught with it and go to prison, or fail a drug test and lose your job.

How can anyone take you seriously when the only thing you do when you disagree is trow a endless stream of swears and say they're wrong?
Have you ever though about how some people do not think like you and therefor have a different opinion then you? And thank god there are a lot of those kind a people because frankly you really suck at being friendly or at least being halfway decent.

And no, gavel isn't good at your job, he's good at his. I don't even know what your "job is" except for endless swearing to people you don't agree with.

That being said.
Gavel, Apparently some people have a different definition of addiction. The example you name about people with eating disorders, I don't know if there is some obscure translation error, but I'd say they're addicted to eating. And yes, I'm serious. It may be that the force of the word addiction is greater in English than in dutch, but for me addiction is reliance on a substance in the way you need it to feel, how you think feeling right is supposed to feel like, and can't stop consuming the substance without moderate to severe consequences.
The fun part is where you say you can get addicted to anything but yet denie that you can get addicted to marijuana.
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Any habit can be addictive.

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Stop saying it is addictive, that's a lie.


And I don't know if 2-D was serious, but there are indeed cases known of schizophrenia triggered by Weed.

And Since you can't get my story straight, which I thought was rather clear...:
My dad works for a company that has several houses, a workplace and a farm in an area of my town. It is inhabited by socially-weak who can't just live by them selves but don't need constant attention. Like schizophrenics who just started with medication, a body-builder who used steroids and is now in constant pain and can't do all daily chores and so on. There are also several former drug addicts, of which 3 or so are former marijuana addicts.
I've been there several times and have talked to some of the clients...


Clear?
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Mar 10, 2009 2:30 PM #371640
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Mar 10, 2009 3:52 PM #371660
My bro usually smokes 2-3 times a week and he ain't weak, he actually works out at the gym and also smokes with his friends or at a party which is rare. He says it's not strong but it's good. He ain't addicted.
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Mar 10, 2009 4:50 PM #371674
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My bro usually smokes 2-3 times a week and he ain't weak, he actually works out at the gym and also smokes with his friends or at a party which is rare. He says it's not strong but it's good. He ain't addicted.


I'm not addicted either, but it is possible.
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Mar 10, 2009 7:39 PM #371762
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Damn Gavel, you're good at my job.

I also like your name for it, gypsy salad.

I got it from a local radio show.

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my 2 cousins became schizophrenics after smoking pot.

And the ten something people I know who smoke pot are scoring above average in all their subjects and don't take any medications whatsoever. Not everyone reacts the same way.

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I'm not addicted either, but it is possible.

It's possible to get addicted to raspberry yogurt. Why not argue against that? What you don't understand is that just because a few people you've heard of are addicted to it or have experienced negative reactions to it doesn't mean it could happen to everyone. It's just like milk. If I wanted, I could drink a pool of it and have nothing happen to me other than having to take a wicked piss in a few minutes. Meanwhile, if someone with lactose intolerance were to drink a few glasses, they would have a problem. If I were to run a mile, the only thing I'd feel is a bit winded afterward. Meanwhile, if someone with asthma were to run that length, they'd have to go on medication afterward. On the addiction part, my parents like to eat nothing but Jamaican food and would probably eat anything from Jamaica every meal of every day. However, half of the stuff I can't stand. In the long run, it all comes down to your genes, your habits, or your tastes. I'm sure there are probably people who would end up in clinics after taking a bite of the gypsy salad, but the same could be said for someone who's allergic to penicillin or pollen. And at the same time (as someone in here said earlier), most of the people in clinics don't have a problem at all. It's just that society has implanted this whole "drugs are bad, m'kay?" theory into their skulls so if your family were to found out your were thinking about doing weed, they'd probably send you to a doctor.
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Mar 10, 2009 9:03 PM #371824
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And the ten something people I know who smoke pot are scoring above average in all their subjects and don't take any medications whatsoever. Not everyone reacts the same way.


i wasn't saying that it would. I'm just saying it happened to my cousins.
Though all it does is trigger it, it doesn't cause it, so if you get it from smoking pot, you would have gotten it later in life if you didn't smoke pot.

and what does their scores have to do with schizophrenia? lol.