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Hmmm, is it valid for them to believe that and still be a christian? I don't see how they could be.

Inb4 xenu.

That doesn't answer the question, Jeremy.

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Homosexuality. Held by the Church of England to be an acceptable practise and supported by the passages in the new testament where Jesus says we should love everyone.

Rejected by the Catholics and many of the smaller denominations in Africa and the US who quote from Leviticus (although if my memory serves me correctly there is a passage in Leviticus which says you mustn't wear clothes of more than one type of fabric. Catholics tend to ignore that).

Just another misinterpretation. Go to Corinthians chapter 13(or was it 14?) and read it.

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Just another misinterpretation. Go to Corinthians chapter 13(or was it 14?) and read it.

I wonder what Jeremy has to say about the word "misinterpretation" as applied to this. Aren't all interpretations equally valid?

Jesus' story doesn't pertain to Gentiles/Goyim. Everyone alive is going to Hell.

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I wonder what Jeremy has to say about the word "misinterpretation" as applied to this. Aren't all interpretations equally valid?

Basically, to love means everything mentioned in Corinthians chapter 13.
Love does not really mean, "I want to **** around with you".
I forgot which book, but in the old testament, there's plenty of scripture speaking against homosexuality.

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Jesus' story doesn't pertain to Gentiles/Goyim. Everyone alive is going to Hell.

omg, idiot.
Jewish are the chosen people but it refers to everyone having the ability to come to Christ as their savior.

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That doesn't answer the question, Jeremy.

They cant be a christian no, because they don't believe in the basic principles of Christianity that we discussed(Believing Jesus was the son of god, etc.)

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omg, idiot.
Jewish are the chosen people but it refers to everyone having the ability to come to Christ as their savior.

Matthew 15:22-28 (King James Version)

22And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

23But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

24But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

25Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

26But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

27And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

28Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

Holy shit rawgreen, you really are an idiot. Yes there is stuff in the bible against homosexuals, but it is no worse then any other sin..

@OGrilla. I really hope you are trolling and aren't just an ignorant prick. The whole Jesus/New Testemant thing came about so that the Gentiles could be saved.

I keep reading Gentiles as Genitals, and it's hilarious.

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They cant be a christian no, because they don't believe in the basic principles of Christianity that we discussed(Believing Jesus was the son of god, etc.)

So how exactly is that the basic principle of Chrsitianity if the only basis of choosing what is canon is common sense? The person who thinks Jesus was an alien might say that it is "common sense" that Jesus wasn't a diety, but just an alien who pretended to be a diety, because obviously dieties don't exist.

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So how exactly is that the basic principle of Chrsitianity if the only basis of choosing what is canon is common sense? The person who thinks Jesus was an alien might say that it is "common sense" that Jesus wasn't a diety, but just an alien who pretended to be a diety, because obviously dieties don't exist.

I thought we already established that there are certain things that are probably needed to be considered christian, such as accepting jesus christ as your savior, and admitting he was god and jesus and the holy spirit as the holy trinity. And I never said that choosing what is and what isn't cannon(all of it is technically 'cannon' but some of it was just metaphors and proverbs, etc, I said interpreting what is metaphor and what was reality using common sense. Obviously if the point of the bible was pretty much Jesus was god and you need to accept him as your savior, than that usually is taken as reality.

Also, I never said that the only basis was common sense, I said "I don't know, common sense?" See the question mark motherfucker? It usually Means I'm not sure.

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I thought we already established that there are certain things that are probably needed to be considered christian, such as accepting jesus christ as your savior, and admitting he was god and jesus and the holy spirit as the holy trinity. And I never said that choosing what is and what isn't cannon(all of it is technically 'cannon' but some of it was just metaphors and proverbs, etc, I said interpreting what is metaphor and what was reality using common sense.

Well suppose these Alien Jesus people thought differently from you about what it takes to be considered a Christian? Suppose they believe the whole new testament, and even believe that Jesus claimed divinity, but that he only did that because it was the easy thing to do? Who are you to say that you have to think Jesus is the son of God to be a Christian?

Looks to me like Jeremy is trying to have his cake and eat it.

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Who are you to say that you have to think Jesus is the son of God to be a Christian?

Is that not the absolute majorities definition of christian?

Why are we talking about aliens? Can you please just make your point?

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Is that not the absolute majorities definition of christian?

Why are we talking about aliens? Can you please just make your point?

So, then, Majority rules on what Christianity actually is?

Majority where? The whole world's majority? Just the country you live in? How about the area you live in?