Quote from LegoRobot ComicsIf we camed from monkeys, whycome there still be monkeys?
Do you have an answer to that?
I Think They're Getting Smarter?
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Jun 19, 2009 1:51 AM #443061
Do you have an answer to that?
Jun 19, 2009 4:52 AM #443133
Quote from AshAdaptation+adaptation+adaptation+adaptation=Big adaptation.
If one specific group of orangutans is separated from another group for long enough, the two groups will eventually become unable to inter-breed because of the genetic differences. This means that these two groups are different species.
That's evolution, numbskull.
You mean speaciation?
Quote from MyselfWHERES YOUR "IF EVOLUTION IS REAL WHY ARENT TEH MONKEYS GETTING SMARTER?" ARGUMENT NOW MR CHRISTIAN MAN?z
Don't see what religion has to do with evolution. And those are apes, not monkeys.
WHERES YOU "IF EVOLUTION IS REAL WHY ARE TEH HUMMANS GETTING SMARTER" ARGUMENT NOW MR SCIENCE MAN?z
Jun 19, 2009 5:02 AM #443141
Quote from Ash"Ah didunt evolve frum no munkeh."
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Quote from AshAdaptation+adaptation+adaptation+adaptation=Big adaptation.
If one specific group of orangutans is separated from another group for long enough, the two groups will eventually become unable to inter-breed because of the genetic differences. This means that these two groups are different species.
That's evolution, numbskull.
And where in that article did it say that this was a skill aquired through imitation rather than the ape's own ingenuity?
Oh, and about genes not teaching you to make a spear:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_web
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver#Habitat
http://www.springerlink.com/content/nnxdge13894eqk1a/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4Tm9QdI_eM
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v431/n7004/full/431039a.html
http://www.sciencemag.org/feature/data/crow/
http://primatology.net/2007/02/22/savanna-chimpanzees-hunt-with-tools/
No, these aren't the product of evolution, they're just the product of imitation!
That must be why they are able to do that even when spearated from others... of... their... species...
So who exactly is the spider imitating? Spider mothers don't look after their young. They leave them soon after the eggs hatch.
Quote from AshIt is, it's just that people like Smashdood are awful at math and don't understand the way addition works.
3 posts in a row that all insult someone. Excellent.
EDIT: And this thread really should have ended after the first reply.
Jun 19, 2009 6:47 AM #443235
Quote from tyler9877If monkeys cold evole.Id try to own a monkey.Cool righy
tyler, if one specific group of orangutans is separated from another group for long enough, the two groups will eventually become unable to inter-breed because of the genetic differences. This means that these two groups are different species.
That's evolution, numbskull.
And where in that article did it say that this was a skill aquired through imitation rather than the ape's own ingenuity?
Oh, and about genes not teaching you to make a spear:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_web
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver#Habitat
http://www.springerlink.com/content/nnxdge13894eqk1a/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4Tm9QdI_eM
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...l/431039a.html
http://www.sciencemag.org/feature/data/crow/
http://primatology.net/2007/02/22/sa...nt-with-tools/
No, these aren't the product of evolution, they're just the product of imitation!
That must be why they are able to do that even when spearated from others... of... their... species...
So who exactly is the spider imitating? Spider mothers don't look after their young. They leave them soon after the eggs hatch.
Jun 19, 2009 9:12 AM #443283
Quote from GavelYou mean speaciation?
WHERES YOU "IF EVOLUTION IS REAL WHY ARE TEH HUMMANS GETTING SMARTER" ARGUMENT NOW MR SCIENCE MAN?z
NOE UR MR GAY :Dope: :Dope: :Dope: :Dope: :Undercover: :Undercover: :Ohhhhh: :Undercover: :Dope: :Cool: :Cool:
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Jun 19, 2009 1:53 PM #443358
Its nice to see that I am not the only one who is getting irritated at Ash's constant elitism and general douchebaggery.
If anything, this just shows that primates have the ability to learn. Like we didn't already know that.
If anything, this just shows that primates have the ability to learn. Like we didn't already know that.
Jun 19, 2009 2:30 PM #443368
Now think that these monkeys will actually evolve into rational beings like we did!
It's not impossible, it's not even improbable! I think that in a few thousand years from now, those monkeys will have their own structure and will start to evolve properly.
The weird part is that we, as first evolving rational humans, would eventually have to live with them, and .. Well, i find it strange to imagine.
It's not impossible, it's not even improbable! I think that in a few thousand years from now, those monkeys will have their own structure and will start to evolve properly.
The weird part is that we, as first evolving rational humans, would eventually have to live with them, and .. Well, i find it strange to imagine.
Jun 19, 2009 2:49 PM #443383
Quote from WtfNow think that these monkeys will actually evolve into rational beings like we did!
It's not impossible, it's not even improbable! I think that in a few thousand years from now, those monkeys will have their own structure and will start to evolve properly.
The weird part is that we, as first evolving rational humans, would eventually have to live with them, and .. Well, i find it strange to imagine.
People are intolerant yo, one of the facts of life.
Jun 19, 2009 2:52 PM #443385
Yeah..
Maybe we will be extinct before something like that happens.
Maybe we will be extinct before something like that happens.
Jun 19, 2009 4:12 PM #443456
If evolution is real, why are there still monkeys. Is there anything lesser evolved than a monkey?
Jun 19, 2009 4:40 PM #443485
Quote from GavelYou mean speaciation?
Glad you have some knowledge of biology, Gavel. /not sarcasm
Evolution (n)
2. c. Change in the genetic composition of a population during successive generations, as a result of natural selection acting on the genetic variation among individuals, and resulting in the development of new species.
Speciation (n)
The formation of new species as a result of geographic, physiological, anatomical, or behavioral factors that prevent previously interbreeding populations from breeding with each other.
The words are interchangable when refering to the formation of a new species. If a new species forms, you can call it speciation OR evolution, both terms apply.
@Dragon: My insulting others is how I cope with being terribly lonely. That and heroin.
@Steyner: Calling me a douchebag doesn't invalidate my points.
Jun 19, 2009 7:33 PM #443623
Quote from AsSeenOnTVIf evolution is real, why are there still monkeys. Is there anything lesser evolved than a monkey?
I'll read 'ape' to avoid an argument.
The thing that a lot of people misunderstand is that humans didn't evolve from apes - the evolved from an ape-like ancestor. In the same way, apes evolved from a human-like ancestor. Apes are not our grandparents; they're our cousins.
Jun 19, 2009 8:54 PM #443686
Yes but how do we know that we're more advanced than monkies?
How are we any more evolved? Why would they evolve into something better? Is a human better than an ape?
How are we any more evolved? Why would they evolve into something better? Is a human better than an ape?
Jun 19, 2009 10:11 PM #443737
Quote from Ash
Evolution (n)
2. c. Change in the genetic composition of a population during successive generations, as a result of natural selection acting on the genetic variation among individuals, and resulting in the development of new species.
Speciation (n)
The formation of new species as a result of geographic, physiological, anatomical, or behavioral factors that prevent previously interbreeding populations from breeding with each other.
The words are interchangable when refering to the formation of a new species. If a new species forms, you can call it speciation OR evolution, both terms apply.
@Dragon: My insulting others is how I cope with being terribly lonely. That and heroin.
@Steyner: Calling me a douchebag doesn't invalidate my points.
I am well aware that calling you a douchebag doesn't invalidate your points, I am merely point out the fact that you are acting like a dickhead.
Anyway, you can't decide to interchange Speciation, they aren't equal terms and hence cannot be swapped like that. If A leads to B then A=/=B.
Speciation is almost an empirical test for evolution.
Jun 19, 2009 11:50 PM #443808
Quote from SteyeneAnyway, you can't decide to interchange Speciation, they aren't equal terms and hence cannot be swapped like that.
Your statement is correct in a universal context, but the terms ARE interchangable if we are just identifying what we are witnessing when we see the formation of a species. I am sure you must understand this simple concept, its not that hard.