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Oct 6, 2009 11:33 PM #496937
No no I said we are not the most intelligent species...
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Oct 6, 2009 11:46 PM #496942
AHUURRR DURRRRRR

Humans aren't the most intelligent species, therefore another species is more intelligent than us and is not human, therefore some animals (When defined as non-humans) are smarter than humans.

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Lern 2 logic.
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Oct 7, 2009 12:19 AM #496952
it's well known that mice and dolphins are more intelligent than us, I don't see whats so hard to understand about that.
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Oct 7, 2009 12:40 AM #496961
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AHUURRR DURRRRRR

Humans aren't the most intelligent species, therefore another species is more intelligent than us and is not human, therefore some animals (When defined as non-humans) are smarter than humans.

1. H 2. A>H



Lern 2 logic.


Lmao. i know that i just corrected you on what you thought i said.
all im saying is that the line is there , and you can break it into many pieces on what we can and cannot do. One thing that put's us on top is we can over throw all of them. i wanna see a dolphin/squid compete with a semi-automatic.
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Oct 7, 2009 1:51 AM #496991
"I said we are not the most intelligent species..."


And I said that no animals are more intelligent than us, after which you denied that while restating my point: We ARE the most intelligent species.
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Oct 7, 2009 2:08 AM #496995
U just said some animals are smarter then humans. Make up ur mind
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Oct 7, 2009 2:09 AM #496997
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it's well known that mice and dolphins are more intelligent than us, I don't see whats so hard to understand about that.

Too bad the mice's program was destroyed just five minutes before it was complete.

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i wanna see a dolphin/squid compete with a semi-automatic.

I'd like to see you compete with a semi-automatic.
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Oct 7, 2009 2:25 AM #497006
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U just said some animals are smarter then humans. Make up ur mind


No, I was correcting you on your logic.

First, I said "So how exactly are animals smarter than us?", which implies that I was skeptical of the idea that animals are more intelligent than humans.

Then, you said "No no I said we are not the most intelligent species...", which you worded as a correction, and yet your correction was a restatement of what I had just said, which is that humans are the most intelligent species.

My post ( http://www.stickpageportal.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1602122#post1602122 ) demonstrated that "Humans are not the most intelligent species" and "Some animals are smarter than humans", are identical claims. I demonstrated this to show you that your correction was a restatement of the implied claim of my earlier question, not a correction at all.
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Oct 7, 2009 3:36 PM #497122
so tell me ash. what is the difference between us and them?
can you real explain The thin line between us and them?
is there a line?
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Oct 7, 2009 5:00 PM #497173
Guys, the question here isn't about humans being smarter then other animals, It's pretty obvious that YES WE ARE ANIMALS, Evolution just took place and now people think were not even animals..
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Oct 7, 2009 7:56 PM #497313
I honestly don't get how you guyzz could possibly debate whether or not humans are animals or not. Clearly, we are the ones who define that, and our universal definition of ourselves is (****ing drumroll): "Kingdom: Animalia."
There, now shut the **** up about that, it's not even really the OP's question. His question was:
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What seperates humans from the animals? Does anything seperate humans from animals?


Clearly, humans are animals. However, it is just as clear that we are different from the rest of he animals in different ways. Some have mentioned imagination, intelligence, probably religion, and similar ideas.
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Oct 7, 2009 8:01 PM #497316
I figured I'd throw this quote in here:

"Probably the difference between man and the monkeys is that the monkeys are merely bored, while man has boredom plus imagination."
- Lin Yutang

It doesn't help, but I can't resist throwing quotes around.
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Oct 7, 2009 11:27 PM #497402
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so tell me ash. what is the difference between us and them?
can you real explain The thin line between us and them?
is there a line?


The only difference is our intelligence. I've already said this.
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Oct 7, 2009 11:41 PM #497408
Well, let's see....

Firstly, we all agree that humans are animals, since we are all obviously consciously alive. It is also obvious that we have intelligence. Animals also are proven to have intellegence(we both have instinct, too, but that's not the point). The difference is nothing more or less than the ability we were created with. Let me explain.

When man was first created, however you believe, he was put here along with all these other animals that science has proven were here long before him. It seems logical to assume that man was not at the top of the food chain from the beginning. In the jungle, he had to hide from tigers, so he learned to climb a tree. In the forest, he had to run from the bear. Other animals were created with the physical ability to do these things. Humans were created with the mental ability. Same thing with those below us; bears have claws and teeth, eagles have talons. Humans, with their obviously weak bodies, have only their minds, and in turn the tools they create.

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it's well known that mice and dolphins are more intelligent than us, I don't see whats so hard to understand about that.


The reason it's hard to understand is because a. as humans we can not imagine the mind of a different creature any more than we can explain color to a blind man and b. intelligence is relitave. Perhaps we are the dominant species on earth because the mice and the dolphins are gifted with amazing physical traits as well and they have less need for intelligence. I say intelligence is relitave because different people think of it in different ways. The obvious argument to mice being more intelligent than us is "why haven't they made a computer yet? Or made any tool whatsoever? Or even discover fire?" Whereas some people think, "they figured out the puzzle faster than any human, even if they were the same running speed! Incredible!" What I'm trying to say is that there are different kinds of intelligence, and just because the mouse one is technically smarter doesn't mean it's more practical.

Imagine a bear, who is obviously dominant to a rabbit, saying the same thing. "The rabbit has speed, but we have our claws and our strategy." All species are seperated like this, but since we are human, we like to put ourselves in the center.
(that was not an insult)
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Oct 8, 2009 1:19 AM #497453
Your grasp of biology is faulty, man.
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