To be honest, I have yet to see Gavel source his claim either, yet.

Kind of redundant since Kveyo already did, as I had said. I don't know about you, but I find it annoying when people come into a debate without reading any of it and just say the same thing billions of others have said.

And jesus, Dragon, I was joking about the Bob Marley thing. Of all people, you're one that should've seen that. I mean, Ash's post was one thing to question, but seriously now?

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Man, the government did a really good job propagandizing you little kids.

By the way, just throwing this out there
Cannabis is the best, natural expectorant to clear the human lungs of smog, dust and phlegm that may or may not be associated with tobacco use.
Many joggers and marathon runners feel that cannabis use clears up their lungs, which allows better endurance.
Cannabis is also used by many people with asthma as a treatment.

It's true, I'm a smoker so my breathing is moderately laboured anyway, but after a joint my airway feels extremely opened up and I find it much easier to breathe. Plus I'm usually high enough to find it extremely funny so double positive.

Since I'm tired (and we were just ****ing robbed from our ****ing house, ****) I won't be giving the most sourced of arguments, but the simple fact is it should be legalized.

One : More people die a year from drinking related deaths than marijuana related deaths, fact.
Two : There would be less street fights and bar brawls if it was legalized because people would be far too high to fight anyway.
Three : The amount of shit that can get mixed in with a random baggie you buy off a dealer is dangerous, if it was a government controlled (and unfortunately, taxed) drug then it would be safer, more trustworthy and hopefully less harmful.
Four : I love a good spliff, stop ****ING shitting on my ****ING parade.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Oh, and for anyone who wants a great (fictional) book on legalizing drugs then read High Society by Ben Elton.

BUT IT'S KILLING YOUR BRAIN. A WEBSITE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO STOP USING DRUGS SAID SO!!!!

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Kind of redundant since Kveyo already did, as I had said. I don't know about you, but I find it annoying when people come into a debate without reading any of it and just say the same thing billions of others have said.

You mean like you saying what Kveyo said just without sourcing it? Yeah, I hate that too.

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And jesus, Dragon, I was joking about the Bob Marley thing. Of all people, you're one that should've seen that. I mean, Ash's post was one thing to question, but seriously now?

You mean you weren't trying to prove some kind of point at all with the Bob Marley thing? Is that why you brought him up twice, in posts where you were pointing out other smart people who use Marijuana in an attempt to prove that Marijuana and dumbness are not related (an argument that you not only didn't source, but is also fallacious from the start because it isn't part of a study).

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BUT IT'S KILLING YOUR BRAIN. A WEBSITE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO STOP USING DRUGS SAID SO!!!!

Right. My source must be propaganda. It couldn't be that marijuana smokers also spread propaganda could it? I could basically switch a few words around in here and use this to attack your sources, but you didn't provide any. And yes, I could use them to attack Kveyo's too. But it wouldn't be a legitimate attack.

As a matter of fact, no I wasn't using Bob Marley to prove anything. It was half joke and half mad that people were calling him dumb. Well, mostly joke.

Oh and by the way, I'm not really providing any sources because I'm not really being a productive part of this debate. I just pop in and interject every now and then because I think Kveyo and Cosmo would probably dominate their side if they weren't too busy getting high to come on every now and then. That and gingers have no soul, so it is my job to quell your evil force when no one else is around. And I'm rambling now so I think I might've gotten a contact high from some stoner kid sitting next to me on the bus.

I don't consider the evidence strong enough to support either side at the moment (hence I tend to stay out of these threads) but for the sake of playing devil's advocate:

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One : More people die a year from drinking related deaths than marijuana related deaths, fact.

More people die from car crashes than murder. Should we ban cars and legalise homicide?

Two : There would be less street fights and bar brawls if it was legalized because people would be far too high to fight anyway.

Not everyone would smoke. I have no particular desire to, legal or not.

The other two are fine points.

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More people die from car crashes than murder. Should we ban cars and legalise homicide?

Car crashes stem from some form of irresponsible driving, unless it's weather related or something.

You can smoke all the marijuana you want and the risk of anyone being harmed from it probably doesn't go up any higher than smoking a reasonable amount.

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As a matter of fact, no I wasn't using Bob Marley to prove anything. It was half joke and half mad that people were calling him dumb. Well, mostly joke.

Oh and by the way, I'm not really providing any sources because I'm not really being a productive part of this debate. I just pop in and interject every now and then because I think Kveyo and Cosmo would probably dominate their side if they weren't too busy getting high to come on every now and then. That and gingers have no soul, so it is my job to quell your evil force when no one else is around. And I'm rambling now so I think I might've gotten a contact high from some stoner kid sitting next to me on the bus.

Your right! Gingers have NO souls. Bwahahahaha.

Bob Marley ISN'T dumb... how could the artist/activist who produced so much good be dumb? He can't.

Cannabis should definitely be decriminalized and legalized. It has no place being considered an illegal substance at all. It was based on one mans single-mindedness and racism.

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More people die from car crashes than murder. Should we ban cars and legalise homicide?

Wow, way to miss the point entirely. He was hinting at the fact that alcohol is still legal even though it's a more deadlier substance than marijuana. Hell, you don't have to be driving in order to die from alcohol. He probably should've used that as his argument. Either that or use the "cigarettes kill more people in a day than wee does in a year" argument.

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Your right! Gingers have NO souls. Bwahahahaha.

Bob Marley ISN'T dumb... how could the artist/activist who produced so much good be dumb? He can't.

Cannabis should definitely be decriminalized and legalized. It has no place being considered an illegal substance at all. It was based on one mans single-mindedness and racism.

Woah, glad to see a newbie with a brain. If only we had more recruits to successfully quell the upcoming ginger uprising.

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I don't know about you, but I find it annoying when people come into a debate without reading any of it and just say the same thing billions of others have said.

Please direct me to the post where YOU sourced YOUR claims.


I was pointing out that you aren't really doing much work.

Are you blind? I said I didn't like two times already. Jesus Christ...

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Wow, way to miss the point entirely. He was hinting at the fact that alcohol is still legal even though it's a more deadlier substance than marijuana. Hell, you don't have to be driving in order to die from alcohol. He probably should've used that as his argument. Either that or use the "cigarettes kill more people in a day than wee does in a year" argument.


Woah, glad to see a newbie with a brain. If only we had more recruits to successfully quell the upcoming ginger uprising.

Glad to be here!


There are PLENTY of things that are legal that are more harmful to man than marijuana, which is illegal. I really don't see why people are so against it. Its been around for thousands of years and has never recorded a single death because of it. How can people not see this?

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. SOURCE YOUR GOD DAMN INFO.

What if I said that Marijuana has been shown scientifically to cause users to be brainwashed assholes? I would be called out on it because I have nothing to back it up! Quit spewing "facts" and provide a fucking link. This isn't a debate if you can't back up your claims, its just a bunch of fucking retards shouting at each other.