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*sigh*
Straw man argument again. I never suggested that marijuana kills brain cells (it doesn't) just that it has negative effects on the brain. Huge difference.
you stated that you could find links where it states that cannabis kills brain cells, i asked you for a simple favor man.
It would really help if you could quote specific paragraphs from that stuff. I can't be arsed to read through these shitload of links.
nah you asked for em i got em, i read all of your links so now you're gonna read mine as i didn't use google i had to search and search through the pages of links that i have finding a legitimate source and re-reading em to make sure it's actually relevant

and health reasons
nope, the only real studies back then ( and they were by the government) showed that cannabis doesn't drive you to murder or is instantly addicting were thrown out and replaced with reefer madness a mad craze where all sorts of stories were made up about cannabis like smoking a joint and killing your whole family, . me source is marihuana reconsidered by dr. grinspoon
And the first republican government crashed and burned as well. Plenty of ideas failed at first and then were great later. You haven't really made a point.

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sure are.

whatever. What I meant was to source specific info and stats that you use, not just provide a list of links.
next time say that eh? i read all the links i saw so i assumed you did too

Except not really. What I mean by tobacco and alcohol is that it is legal right now and has been for a very long time. Once you legalize marijuana you can never go back, as the alcohol prohibition proved. I just want to be sure before we legalize.
never say never, alcohol prohibition was removed to ward of all the crime it was causing. gods knows why they can't think of that now


I really don't see what abortion has to do with this debate but ok, whatever.

The reason I don't go for the whole "government should regulate what we put in our bodies thing" is because I wouldn't feel good about myself knowing I am letting people harm themselves. It makes me an enabler to a destructive habit. I understand that there are people who think all drugs, even meth and such, should be legal under this principle but I am not one of them. It's an opinion.
who's talking about meth?stop using bad images like that to make yourself look better, it's the same shit the media does.

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weed's just good and i dont care if it kills me.
done argueing
and
i hereby kill the debate.

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I'm not saying that those sources are wrong, I'm just trying to point out that the effects of Marijuana are not well known. (I'm kind of thrusting a catch-22 on you guys, I get it). For every study you have that claims Marijuana is good for you I can find one that says the exact opposite. The studies are so contradictory it's amazing. I don't know which to trust.
why don't you believe the universities(not just in america), independent research labs, clinical trials etc. all who have absolutely no reason to be biased because they get paid either way they test runs? instead of what appears the first 3 links from google you can find.
I don't know the history of Marijuana, but it really doesn't matter. Maybe it should never have been illegal, but it is now and I think it should be for the time being.
of course the history matters, if your defending why it is illegal NOW you have to know why it was made illegal THEN. thats like saying hey i don't know why them darkies are way over yonder and i dont care to know, it's been that way all mah life and thats how its sayin dang nabbit.
I've already addressed that point. I'd be enabling a destructive habit (I know you don't think it's destructive, I do.) I can't do that and feel like a good person.
so do you smoke ciggs? do you drink? do you do anything in anyway that can harm you or someone else? by doing so you are enabling a destructive habit and you are a horrible person.
All government is is one big opinion.

I prefer to have a few quality arguments as opposed to an infinite amount of crappy ones just so I don't "run out." We are reaching the point where the debate goes in circles.


I completely disagree with the "less people would use it if it was legal" part. That does not compute.

The prohibition of marijuana has not decreased availability or served as an effective deterrent.

Marijuana prohibition may actually increase adolescent marijuana use.

Marijuana prohibition may increase the likelihood that marijuana users will use hard drugs.

Existing evidence indicates that removing criminal penalties for the personal use and acquisition of marijuana would not lead to an increase in use among adolescents.
from http://www.ukcia.org/research/adolescents.htm
and yes is says that marijuana decriminalization won't curtail it's use, but of course we're not talking about decriminalization we are talking about legalization, where it is controlled like alcohol. drug dealers are still out there askin kids if they want some weed if its just decriminalized, but if it's legalized then for the most part, nobody is going to sell weed anymore.


So. Do. You.
I have shown nothing but respect for your arguments this entire time (except when you don't source shit, then I've been an ass). You have to open your mind that it's ok for people to disagree with you.

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It's as simple as this.

Just let people do what they want with their bodies. Legalize weed, corporations will regulate it and sell it.

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more like: its legalized, everyone will grow their own/ buy cheaper from dealers.

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No. Making it legal doesn't mean that being a dealer is legal.