Why NOT to legalize marijuana.

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Mar 3, 2010 2:15 AM #552514
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That's your logic? There's an economic crisis so people turning to drug dealing instead of looking for a job is a good thing? You're ****ing unbelievable.


If that was actually my argument, I would have been wrong. But nowhere did I say people turn to drug dealing due to not finding a job, I said it would be impossible for the people who are already drug dealing would not find a job once marijuana becomes legal.
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Mar 3, 2010 2:18 AM #552515
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i've never met a drug dealer, but they usually aren't seen as great people.
unless you're looking for some drugs to buy, of course.

and im sure there are nice dealers, and im sure there are crazy evil dealers.

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Mar 3, 2010 2:18 AM #552516
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If that was actually my argument, I would have been wrong. But nowhere did I say people turn to drug dealing due to not finding a job, I said it would be impossible for the people who are already drug dealing would not find a job once marijuana becomes legal.


You were still saying that the fact that the job market isn't the best it's been that drug dealing is a better alternative to them losing that prospect and having to look for actual jobs. My argument still holds.
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Mar 3, 2010 2:22 AM #552517
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You were still saying that the fact that the job market isn't the best it's been that drug dealing is a better alternative to them losing that prospect and having to look for actual jobs. My argument still holds.

Not at all, if you actually paid any minor attention to, well, both of my posts, I never even mentioned drug dealing as an alternative to anything.
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Mar 3, 2010 2:27 AM #552518
it was insinuated by the fact that you think dealers who pocket all the profits from their sales for themselves actually help the economy
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Mar 3, 2010 2:28 AM #552519
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using fictional characters doesn't help your case at all
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Mar 3, 2010 2:31 AM #552520
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it was insinuated by the fact that you think dealers who pocket all the profits from their sales for themselves actually help the economy


Do you think that flat screen TV and that nice car your dealer has didn't help the economy? The money that he used to buy them didn't go into the cycle? It must have just disappeared!
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Mar 3, 2010 2:32 AM #552521
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Oh, so the stoner is a good person, but the person who supplies him has to be a bad, evil man?


We already don't have enough jobs for the people as it is, why do you think there will be enough when over 1,000,000 more people start looking for them?


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Most dealers aren't good people


Never said they all were bad people, just the real ones that I live by at least are shady and have more than likely been involved in a few murders, seriously.
Also never said anything about the stoner,
moron.

Jobs like I've stated, in fast food and such, aren't too hard to come by, it's the career jobs that are a problem.
Plus, as stated by Exilement,
There would be a huge increase in jobs once Marijuana is legalized, whether it be for supplying or possibly even locations for selling, idk, but there would be some sort of increase.

And also,
1,000,000 people?
that's less than 1% of people in the US...

Plus,
once taxed,
it would fill in for any amount of money given back from the dealers.
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Mar 3, 2010 2:36 AM #552523
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Not at all, if you actually paid any minor attention to, well, both of my posts, I never even mentioned drug dealing as an alternative to anything.


I paid attention to your posts. Are you being serious right now? I honestly can't tell

You said there aren't many jobs available, so dealers being expected to find jobs other than selling drugs was inferred to be a negative thing. You didn't speak in alternatives, but you certainly didn't make it sound like dealers looking for jobs was a good idea.

Quit picking apart meaningless parts of my posts and ignoring the parts that are actually making you look like an ignorant, uneducated dumbass.
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Mar 3, 2010 2:36 AM #552524
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There would be a huge increase in jobs once Marijuana is legalized, whether it be for supplying or possibly even locations for selling, idk, but there would be some sort of increase.

And also,
1,000,000 people?
that's less than 1% of people in the US...

1. To be honest, if marijuana is legalized, it will be sold by Marlboro and Camel. There won't be any new jobs.

2. I'm sorry, but do you personally know 1,000,000 people? Even if it's a small percent, it shouldn't be hard to see that it is, in fact, a big number.
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Mar 3, 2010 2:40 AM #552526
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you certainly didn't make it sound like dealers looking for jobs was a good idea.

Why would it be? There are no jobs
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Mar 3, 2010 2:40 AM #552527
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using fictional characters doesn't help your case at all

joke dude

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Do you think that flat screen TV and that nice car your dealer has didn't help the economy? The money that he used to buy them didn't go into the cycle? It must have just disappeared!

because, you know, dealers are the only people who buy nice things. gotcha

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1. To be honest, if marijuana is legalized, it will be sold by Marlboro and Camel. There won't be any new jobs.

yeah, you're right. i guess they'll just use the same machines and the same people to make a completely different product
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Mar 3, 2010 2:40 AM #552528
My views on Marijuana keep changing. I'm slowly coming around to the idea. The first time we had a debate on it I was pretty strongly against legalization. The second time I was only slightly against it. Now I'm pretty neutral.

One thing I've been consistent on is that the reports on marijuana are often conflicting. Let me show you an example:

Here is an article on CBS news published yesterday that shows a link between pot use and psychosis. The study was based in Australia and used over 4000 people. That's fairly trustworthy. Yet here is an article also published yesterday by the LA Times that, to some extent, refutes the study. Essentially the point of that second article is that correlation doesn't equal causation, and we can't be sure whether the pot use led to the psychosis or the psychosis led to the pot use.

Want more evidence? How about conflict in the same article. A few weeks ago WebMD (pretty trustworthy source, I would say) posted this article about a University of California (pretty trustworthy) study. The study indicates that medical marijuana works for some specific problems. But even though that article seems to present the study in a positive light it also admits that "Some experts who reviewed the report say some of the studies are flawed and that they worry about the long-term health effects of marijuana smoke." Even the director of the study admitted that "I'm hoping the results of our studies will prompt larger-scale studies that involve a much more varied population." And if you go to the second page of that article you see a UCLA pharmaceutical professor criticizing medical marijuana use, where he admits it has health benefits but quotes the risks as being too dangerous.

Essentially what you have in a nutshell with marijuana is a drug that has both positive and negative effects. It isn't a sinful, dangerous, addictive substance like the wacko right paints it out to be but it isn't a miracle cure-all drug like the wacko left paints it out to be. As usual, the truth is in the middle. Do the benefits outweigh the risks? I think more research needs to be done.
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Mar 3, 2010 2:41 AM #552530
Thank you for solidifying my assumption that you're uneducated
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Mar 3, 2010 2:42 AM #552531
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because, you know, dealers are the only people who buy nice things. gotcha

No, but they buy as many nice things as others, and those others sure help the economy when they do, don't they?