Why NOT to legalize marijuana.

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Mar 3, 2010 3:32 AM #552555
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that wasn't an example. that was just a hyperbole

Yeah, because the original topic involved packs of gum in the first place.
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Mar 3, 2010 3:34 AM #552556
It didn't, which is making me wonder why you used the example in the first place.

Either way you're not focusing on the right arguments.
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Mar 3, 2010 3:34 AM #552557
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Yeah, because the original topic involved packs of gum in the first place.


what? you're the one who made the gum example, not me
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Mar 3, 2010 3:35 AM #552558
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Saying that it would cost more is completely asinine,

the price would be far less being that there is substantially less risk associated with selling it when it is legal than when it is not legal. the same reason why alcohol prices skyrocketed during prohibition time. if you can get locked up in jail by a cop for selling something, you are going to charge more for the product because of the risk involved in doing so. even if the demand for marijuana did go up after it was legalized, the supply of it would also go up as it would not be against the law to sell it. even with government taxation it would still be cheaper.

whoops,
quoted wrong person,
meant the OP
it seems as if I had deleted this part of this post,
and seeing as it is completely relevant to this subject,
you are a jackass Brownoser.

:/

Seems as if I am still being ignored...

Oh, and this isn't the main argument, this is just to make him shut the **** up about the whole gum thing.

EDIT:
Holy shit,
ignored again,
hey Brownoser,
**** YOU!
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Mar 3, 2010 3:37 AM #552560
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what? you're the one who made the gum example, not me

And you're the one that declared it not to be an example. The point of my post.
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Mar 3, 2010 3:38 AM #552561
what does that have to do with the topic of the thread not being about gum?

it's like you're trying to argue everything anyone posts in this thread
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Mar 3, 2010 3:39 AM #552562
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it's like you're trying to argue everything anyone posts in this thread


except for anything that would completely break his argument, like wartooth's post

I would have respected you if you could have even once considered the opposite side to be right, but even the end of your first post got rid of any hopes for that. you're a ****ing awful debater.
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Mar 3, 2010 3:40 AM #552563
Well, as i see it, legalizing can only be good for the government, and businesses i suppose. Buying legal marijuana is most likely going to be overpriced, as medical marijuana usually is more expensive, therefor, as a consumer, I would prefer it to stay illegal, as personally, I'm indifferent as to other's judgment of my drug usage.

As a dealer, I think I'd actually be indifferent as well in the final outcome. As, most users will continue to buy from friends, or dealers they personally know. You know, most kids start drugs by sharing the experience with another friend. It usually begins as a social thing, so as kids are still buying illegally, they're still the ones producing the income. I guess there's always the possibility of legal age users to buy the substance legally, but come on, I just can't picture buying drugs from big companies and such, and I'm sure that almost every drug user will agree with me that over-priced sub-par marijuana is well, just not as enticing as to hand your friend 25 dollars for an eighth, and you're on your way.

so, to be honest, I don't think it'll effect much. even though there are users that want it to be legal, but mostly just for the justice of it being legal. i see it as more of a moral victory.

tldr; i don't believe marijuana would help the economy that much at all, even if it was legalized. it's more of a '**** you' to the critics, making something so heavily fought by such critics, legalized, therefor a win for the enthusiasts.

also, why so much hostility? i don't see why name calling is even an issue here. debate, don't argue.
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Mar 3, 2010 3:41 AM #552564
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what does that have to do with the topic of the thread not being about gum?

it's like you're trying to argue everything anyone posts in this thread

Wartooth seems to be posting a lot in this thread. Is he saying anything relevant? I might take him off my ignore list just to see.

EDIT: Whoops, didn't mean to quote
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Mar 3, 2010 3:41 AM #552565
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Saying that it would cost more is completely asinine,

the price would be far less being that there is substantially less risk associated with selling it when it is legal than when it is not legal. the same reason why alcohol prices skyrocketed during prohibition time. if you can get locked up in jail by a cop for selling something, you are going to charge more for the product because of the risk involved in doing so. even if the demand for marijuana did go up after it was legalized, the supply of it would also go up as it would not be against the law to sell it. even with government taxation it would still be cheaper.

whoops,
quoted wrong person,
meant the OP
it seems as if I had deleted this part of this post,
and seeing as it is completely relevant to this subject,
you are a jackass Brownoser.


Ok, brownoser,
my last try,

Prove me wrong as you are the egotistical asshole who can prove that the sky is red.

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Well, as i see it, legalizing can only be good for the government, and businesses i suppose. Buying legal marijuana is most likely going to be overpriced, as medical marijuana usually is more expensive, therefor, as a consumer, I would prefer it to stay illegal, as personally, I'm indifferent as to other's judgment of my drug usage.

As a dealer, I think I'd actually be indifferent as well in the final outcome. As, most users will continue to buy from friends, or dealers they personally know. You know, most kids start drugs by sharing the experience with another friend. It usually begins as a social thing, so as kids are still buying illegally, they're still the ones producing the income. I guess there's always the possibility of legal age users to buy the substance legally, but come on, I just can't picture buying drugs from big companies and such, and I'm sure that almost every drug user will agree with me that over-priced sub-par marijuana is well, just not as enticing as to hand your friend 25 dollars for an eighth, and you're on your way.

so, to be honest, I don't think it'll effect much. even though there are users that want it to be legal, but mostly just for the justice of it being legal. i see it as more of a moral victory.

tldr; i don't believe marijuana would help the economy that much at all, even if it was legalized. it's more of a '**** you' to the critics, making something so heavily fought by such critics, legalized, therefor a win for the enthusiasts.

also, why so much hostility? i don't see why name calling is even an issue here. debate, don't argue.


I refer you to my above quoted post,
just not the Jackass part,
that seat is reserved for Brownoser.
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Mar 3, 2010 3:43 AM #552566
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Wartooth seems to be posting a lot in this thread. Is he saying anything relevant? I might take him off my ignore list just to see.


"Saying that it would cost more is completely asinine,

the price would be far less being that there is substantially less risk associated with selling it when it is legal than when it is not legal. the same reason why alcohol prices skyrocketed during prohibition time. if you can get locked up in jail by a cop for selling something, you are going to charge more for the product because of the risk involved in doing so. even if the demand for marijuana did go up after it was legalized, the supply of it would also go up as it would not be against the law to sell it. even with government taxation it would still be cheaper."
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Mar 3, 2010 3:44 AM #552567
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"Saying that it would cost more is completely asinine,

the price would be far less being that there is substantially less risk associated with selling it when it is legal than when it is not legal. the same reason why alcohol prices skyrocketed during prohibition time. if you can get locked up in jail by a cop for selling something, you are going to charge more for the product because of the risk involved in doing so. even if the demand for marijuana did go up after it was legalized, the supply of it would also go up as it would not be against the law to sell it. even with government taxation it would still be cheaper."


Well, look at the weed clubs these days, in the first place. They cost a massive amount more than what you would get on the street.
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Mar 3, 2010 3:45 AM #552569
That is because marijuana is illegal
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Mar 3, 2010 3:47 AM #552570
Yes, alcohol cost more in speakeasies too.

Marijuana isn't an expensive product to grow, not nearly as much as tobacco is. It doesn't need drying and lengthly periods of curing to get a final product. I'd be surprised if marijuana would be more expensive than tobacco if it was ever commercialized.
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Mar 3, 2010 3:48 AM #552572
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That is because marijuana is illegal

Marijuana clubs aren't, though. They sell medical marijuana to people with prescriptions.